Today we are on the hunt for a solution to our mixer problems. We shall probably live comment a shopping trip, and that will be enormously fun for all involved. Meanwhile, here's what we've been talking about recently.

  • McLaren have actually come out and admitted they're not as fast as they were hoping, although Whitmarsh says they are holding themselves up against their own championship winning performance. Is this an unusual step from the team? Are they just playing mind games with us?
  • Jake Humphrey has given us all another update into life as the newest F1 anchor. Mr C is unbelievable vexed at the decision not to join Ms Williams for a run around a racetrack, whilst I am fascinated by the unfaltering popularity of The Chain.
  • Comic Relief was on last night, and the big question is - when did it get so rubbish? It used to actually be funny, hence the name, but there were only a few moments worth watching, apparently. I haven't seen the whole thing and can only say this: thank god for the iPlayer.

That'll keep us going for a bit. No doubt there are things on your mind that you'd like to share, and this is the place to do it. I'll see you in the comments.

517 responses

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 01:05

    Comic Relief was on last night, and the big question is - when did it get so rubbish? It used to actually be funny, hence the name, but there were only a few moments worth watching, apparently.

    Some of the better stuff seems to have been kept for after 11 when less people are watching.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 01:10

    Lewis made a very, very brief appearance a few minutes ago, btw.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 01:10

    Lewis made a very, very brief appearance a few minutes ago, btw.

    he did?

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 01:11

    Lewis made a very, very brief appearance a few minutes ago, btw.

    Did they beam him in and out in one move?

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 01:12

    he did?

    I think it was him. He said a couple of words just before one of the appeals started. Wasn't really paying much attention at the time...

  • lou14/03/2009 at 01:13

    I think it was him. He said a couple of words just before one of the appeals started. Wasn’t really paying much attention at the time…

    ah right, that's nice for him ;) i obviously wasn't either :P

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 01:24

    I think it was him. He said a couple of words just before one of the appeals started. Wasn’t really paying much attention at the time…

    His grand contribution was....

    "A games console"

  • me14/03/2009 at 02:15

    tech analysis of the honda:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73700

    (don't think you need to be logged in for this one)

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 02:22

    tech analysis of the honda:

    No subscription needed.

  • me14/03/2009 at 02:26

    another great article. much to think about, but this comment:

    "Honda had already developed and track-tested its KERS system last year, using a flywheel system developed in conjunction with Flybrid. Unlike any other team, this was to be a pure flywheel solution mounted inside the front of the fuel tank, running off the front of the engine."

    is very interesting.

    during the tech talk jon from flybrid sort of let that slip, but it's good to get confirmation.

    we understand that purely mechanical kers is more useful for f1 than electrical kers, and yet the team with the only purely mechanical system are flying without it.

    kers really isn't going to happen in f1 this year is it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 02:28

    another great article. much to think about, but this comment:

    “Honda had already developed and track-tested its KERS system last year, using a flywheel system developed in conjunction with Flybrid. Unlike any other team, this was to be a pure flywheel solution mounted inside the front of the fuel tank, running off the front of the engine.”

    is very interesting.

    during the tech talk jon from flybrid sort of let that slip, but it’s good to get confirmation.

    we understand that purely mechanical kers is more useful for f1 than electrical kers, and yet the team with the only purely mechanical system are flying without it.

    kers really isn’t going to happen in f1 this year is it?

    Yeah I was reading that one on the train.

    So if Brawn do well this year and design their car not to use KERS, will someone (like Flavio) lodge a protest and complain that it's unfair?

    It certainly seems a bit like it's not a level playing field if some teams are spending money and time developing KERS and some not using it all :-(

  • me14/03/2009 at 02:29

    So if Brawn do well this year and design their car not to use KERS, will someone (like Flavio) lodge a protest and complain that it’s unfair?

    nope, it's optional.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 02:30

    kers really isn’t going to happen in f1 this year is it?

    No and next year there is standard KERS which will kill all development.

  • Dirty Scarab14/03/2009 at 02:50

    I honestly think Brawn have made the right decision in not going KERS. It was a good point made in the Autosport article that they have the freedom to move the ballast in the spot that best suits the car.

    As for this:

    McLaren have actually come out and admitted they’re not as fast as they were hoping, although Whitmarsh says they are holding themselves up against their own championship winning performance. Is this an unusual step from the team? Are they just playing mind games with us?

    I suspect that they really are struggling with their aero package (why the green paint, otherwise? - which they were still using on Thursday), but I did find it odd that on Tuesday (or Wed) Ron said that basically there was bugger all to worry about and then two days later, Norbert and Martin completely contradicted him...

  • Dan Brunell14/03/2009 at 03:39

    * McLaren have actually come out and admitted they’re not as fast as they were hoping, although Whitmarsh says they are holding themselves up against their own championship winning performance. Is this an unusual step from the team? Are they just playing mind games with us?

    I just don't believe it. How could this year go so wrong, so fast with their design. Especially with the advantage they had in finding mechanical grip. Their cars have just been too go the last two years for me to take this seriously.

    I don't believe anything until the end of Q3 of qualifying at Australia.

    * Jake Humphrey has given us all another update into life as the newest F1 anchor. Mr C is unbelievable vexed at the decision not to join Ms Williams for a run around a racetrack, whilst I am fascinated by the unfaltering popularity of The Chain.

    Sorry if this sounds superficial, but does anyone have a photo of what Ms Williams looks like. I hear Mr. Me ranting and raving about here and wonder what the big fuss is about?

    I did enjoy her on the Williams' podcast, even though it is basically a 40 minute press releases for the team.

    * Comic Relief was on last night, and the big question is - when did it get so rubbish? It used to actually be funny, hence the name, but there were only a few moments worth watching, apparently. I haven’t seen the whole thing and can only say this: thank god for the iPlayer.

    Being in the states, I didn't know what this was till I wiki'ed it. I think stuff like this is neat. We hardly ever see these in the states anymore. The TV networks are too paranoid about their ratings, especially with all the options on cable and satellite.

  • Dirty Scarab14/03/2009 at 04:28

    Anyone seen this yet?

    http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-video-toyota-all-fired-up/

    It's pretty cool :)

  • 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions Jordan F114/03/2009 at 05:21

    McLaren have actually come out and admitted they’re not as fast as they were hoping, although Whitmarsh says they are holding themselves up against their own championship winning performance. Is this an unusual step from the team? Are they just playing mind games with us?

    Maybe we are being to see Alonso's input into McLaren while he was there? I mean it was before Alonso signed up that McLaren was the biggest joke since Ferrari, Post-Gilles, Pre-Schuie. Then McLaren signs up Alonso half way though a season, Say Alonso slips in how he licks the cars set-up in general, It gives McLaren enough tiem to build a car to suit Alonso and two constructor's titles are the result...

    Now McLaren are stuck with two relativity inexperienced drivers in the art of developing an F1 car and this the result. As much as input from PDLR would be useful, with the restrictions in testing I think both McLaren drivers need to be behind the wheel with cars that they think are suited to their drivers, and are not cars based on expereince, suited to their drivers...

    Just a thought.

  • Dan Brunell14/03/2009 at 06:28

    Just watching the 1998 F1 season. The Belgium GP race is on right now.

    I have to say something, and I say this as a Murray Walker fan. His bromance with Damon Hill is just as annoying as James Allen' was with Lewis the last two years.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 08:17

    It gives McLaren enough tiem to build a car to suit Alonso and two constructor’s titles are the result…

    Hmm, must have missed that ;)

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 10:07

    Alonso interview and his season predictions courtesy of "La Sexta" (great name): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHD6iuLRDN4

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 10:44

    Sidepodcast with added bacon: http://bacolicio.us/http://www.sidepodcast.com

    :-D

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 10:47

    Morning peeps.

    Seriously impressed at the amount of cash comic relief raised last night. £58 million! I did stop watching it though and watched films instead. It just wasn't funny.

    Under 2 weeks will the first proper F1 sessions too. :D

  • Selidor14/03/2009 at 11:31

    This was on F1F:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DJqWxf0K8

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 11:38

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

    Good choice of nationality to represent F1 :-)

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 11:48

    Good choice of nationality to represent F1 :-)

    I didn't know Bourdais was a bear. :P

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 11:50

    How interesting, though: FOX really went after F1 there. Why? Are they threatened by it after USF1/GPE came onto the scene?

  • me14/03/2009 at 11:50

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

    i think gavin said it best when it was previously discussed on thursday:

    "Seriously? I officially hate NASCAR now!"

    amen.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/03/12/daily-12th-march-2009/#comment-211896

  • me14/03/2009 at 11:54

    Sorry if this sounds superficial, but does anyone have a photo of what Ms Williams looks like. I hear Mr. Me ranting and raving about here and wonder what the big fuss is about?

    christine said there's one in drop.io. good luck finding it though.

    when do i rant / rave?

  • me14/03/2009 at 11:56

    Now McLaren are stuck with two relativity inexperienced drivers in the art of developing an F1 car and this the result. As much as input from PDLR would be useful, with the restrictions in testing I think both McLaren drivers need to be behind the wheel with cars that they think are suited to their drivers, and are not cars based on expereince, suited to their drivers…

    interesting point. on the plus side the car is how the drivers want it to be, on the negative side... it's slow.

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 12:06

    Louise Goodman news: she's got the presenting gig to front the in-betweeny bits on the large screens at each race this year.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 12:09

    Louise Goodman news: she’s got the presenting gig to front the in-betweeny bits on the large screens at each race this year.

    so, who does that mean she's working for? is it FOM? she could turn up on their website.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 12:11

    Afternoon. Have joined the iPhone crowd so there will be no stopping me now :)

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 12:13

    Afternoon. Have joined the iPhone crowd so there will be no stopping me now :)

    Yay, Mr C is very jealous! what's the doohickey like?

  • Jeremy14/03/2009 at 12:13

    Yay Jackie!

  • Jeremy14/03/2009 at 12:14

    so, who does that mean she’s working for? is it FOM? she could turn up on their website.

    Cranky JA and winky Ted:

    http://www.louisegoodman.com/folders/goodman_media/who_we_are/

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 12:15

    Great. It's a little bit slow right now as the signal strength in the shopping centre is poor. But I'm impressed

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 12:21

    We are on a musical journey... well, off to see about a mixer anyway. It's a lovely day today.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 12:27

    Good luck :)

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 12:29

    We are on a musical journey… well, off to see about a mixer anyway. It’s a lovely day today.

    Is it? I'm stuck indoors re-jigging my companys website. Fun.Times.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 12:42

    Is it? I’m stuck indoors re-jigging my companys website. Fun.Times.

    Oh, well, inside is good too :)

    We have found the place we were looking for but it's on a scary industrial estate so I'm sending Mr C in.

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 12:56

    Oh, well, inside is good too :)

    We have found the place we were looking for but it’s on a scary industrial estate so I’m sending Mr C in.

    I'm done :S that was easier and quicker than expected! Woop.

    Big burley men? Industrial estates? Don't blame you :P

  • Sebastian (Birmingham, UK)14/03/2009 at 12:58
  • Bassano Clapper14/03/2009 at 13:05
  • Al14/03/2009 at 13:08

    Bad link :(

    If you open it in a new window or tab it works.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:16

    So... how long do we think it takes to evaluate a new mixer?

  • Sebastian (Birmingham, UK)14/03/2009 at 13:17

    Bad link

    I think it might be drop.io. I tested it on preview before I posted it and it worked but now it won't, and neither is anything else I am trying on drop.io.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:19

    So… how long do we think it takes to evaluate a new mixer?

    Depends who is evaluating it, me, I'd go for the mid-priced one that doesn't look to big, but Mr C, I say 20 mins.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:21

    Depends who is evaluating it, me, I’d go for the mid-priced one that doesn’t look to big, but Mr C, I say 20 mins.

    Hmm, it has been 40 already :)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:22

    Hmm, it has been 40 already

    Well, 20 more minutes then, unless he has seen someone he knows of course.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:24

    Well, 20 more minutes then, unless he has seen someone he knows of course.

    He's probably talking about Sidepodcast, encouraging some new listeners.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:25

    He’s probably talking about Sidepodcast, encouraging some new listeners.

    He's got asked what its for, said for a podcast, they ask what, he says sidepodcast, then the hours fly by until you realise its closing time and Christine has fallen asleep.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:26

    He’s got asked what its for, said for a podcast, they ask what, he says sidepodcast, then the hours fly by until you realise its closing time and Christine has fallen asleep.

    Hehe. You've been on one of our shopping trips before, haven't you? :)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:27

    Hehe. You’ve been on one of our shopping trips before, haven’t you?

    :) Sadly not, but they sound immensly fun.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:35

    Ah, he has returned. And he HAS been talking about sidepodcast. They might try and tune in tomorrow :)

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 13:35

    Ah, he has returned. And he HAS been talking about sidepodcast. They might try and tune in tomorrow :)

    haha, amazing

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:36

    Ah, he has returned. And he HAS been talking about sidepodcast. They might try and tune in tomorrow

    Better put the suit on then :D Genius that guy is.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:41

    Better put the suit on then :D Genius that guy is.

    Well, we have to get it home and make sure it works first.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 13:42

    Well, we have to get it home and make sure it works first.

    That helps

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 13:54

    I have opened the box and had a good look at the mixer. I can confirm there are a lot of knobs and twiddly bits.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 13:54

    Ooooo mum just told me there is a new f1 advert on the BBC. And apparently it's brilliant :D has anyone else seen it?

  • lou14/03/2009 at 13:56

    I have opened the box and had a good look at the mixer. I can confirm there are a lot of knobs and twiddly bits.

    ah that's good, they are always useful on sound mixers :D

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 13:58

    I do hope they put the races on the iPlayer, im at uni from september and dont really want to spend 130 pounds on a tv licence

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 14:00

    I do hope they put the races on the iPlayer, im at uni from september and dont really want to spend 130 pounds on a tv licence

    I though tv licences were cheaper for students?

    Either way, they will be simulcast online.

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 14:01

    I though tv licences were cheaper for students?

    Either way, they will be simulcast online.

    nope, they cost the same amount.

    and you still need a tv licence if you watch tv live online

  • lou14/03/2009 at 14:03

    I do hope they put the races on the iPlayer, im at uni from september and dont really want to spend 130 pounds on a tv licence

    well they were on the itv player last year, so I don't see why they wouldn't be on iplayer.

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 14:05

    true story, forgot about that :D

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 14:07

    I have opened the box and had a good look at the mixer. I can confirm there are a lot of knobs and twiddly bits.

    but are they all the twiddly bits you need?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 14:09

    but are they all the twiddly bits you need?

    We will find out shorrly!

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 14:10

    Shortly.

  • Bassano Clapper14/03/2009 at 14:33

    Ooooo mum just told me there is a new f1 advert on the BBC. And apparently it’s brilliant :D has anyone else seen it?

    I saw one earlier with two unbranded F1 lookalikes racing through the streets

    "The world's greatest car chase"

    Clip ended with The Chain beginning - nice!

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 14:38

    Christine: 14/03/2009 at 13:54:04

    I have opened the box and had a good look at the mixer. I can confirm there are a lot of knobs and twiddly bits.

    Oh god... more things for Me to play with...

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 14:39

    We have arrived home. Plugs are flying about. The moment of truth.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 14:42

    I saw one earlier with two unbranded F1 lookalikes racing through the streets

    “The world’s greatest car chase”

    yeah that's it apparently, mum says the cars are black and yellow, so BBC are brawn fans then :P

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 14:48

    I saw one earlier with two unbranded F1 lookalikes racing through the streets

    “The world’s greatest car chase”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one

    Have seen it quite a lot recently.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 14:49

    Oops, wrong link.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7911126.stm

  • Bassano Clapper14/03/2009 at 14:51

    yeah that’s it apparently, mum says the cars are black and yellow, so BBC are brawn fans then :P

    One is black, one is yellow

    It's a bit Gran Turismo

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 15:04

    Ecclestone: British grand prix days could be numbered - guardian.co.uk

    OK now I'm confused. He moves the British GP to Donington and now he says that there may be no room even if it is ready?

    Sounds to me like the conspiracy theory of 'give it to Donington because we all know they'll never be ready in time' may have some weight on it...

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 15:05

    WRC news: Petter Solberg is chasing down Citroen's Dani Sordo - using the 2007 car! And in 1 stage, he's cut down the gap from 50 secs. to 15 secs.

    Solberg Rally = Brawn GP. Just amazing.

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 15:09

    OK now I’m confused. He moves the British GP to Donington and now he says that there may be no room even if it is ready?

    No, what he's saying is if Donington isn't ready, the British GP is gone. And with new races in the pipeline, it may not be back anytime soon.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 15:13

    Congratulations to Brawn GP (from TeamAmericaF1.com)

    I absolutely *LOVE* this website! Yet another hilarious post!

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 15:15

    I absolutely *LOVE* this website! Yet another hilarious post!

    Hahaha! The last paragraph is comedy gold!

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 15:17

    OK now I’m confused. He moves the British GP to Donington and now he says that there may be no room even if it is ready?

    Sounds to me like the conspiracy theory of ‘give it to Donington because we all know they’ll never be ready in time’ may have some weight on it…

    Well surprise surprise.

    Also, hi everyone!

  • Aitch14/03/2009 at 15:32

    OK now I’m confused. He moves the British GP to Donington and now he says that there may be no room even if it is ready?

    I wonder if bernie is thinking about a 'Round Rotation System' similar to what the WRC uses.

  • Lynch14/03/2009 at 15:37

    Well surprise surprise.

    Also, hi everyone!

    Are you ACTUALY "THE" Chris Evans ?!

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 15:40

    Are you ACTUALY “THE” Chris Evans ?!

    Thankfully, no. I'm not ginger or anything :)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 15:52

    chris evans: 14/03/2009 at 15:40:07

    Are you ACTUALY “THE” Chris Evans ?!

    Thankfully, no. I’m not ginger or anything

    How often do people say that to you?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 15:54

    How often do people say that to you?

    No as often as they used to, most people seem to have forgotten him by now.

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 15:56

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant.

    Now you're just making things up!

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 15:58

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant.

    Same guy, or just sharing the same name?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 16:01

    Now you’re just making things up!

    I kid you not. I have random bits of post to prove it!

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:01

    New F1 race channel: http://www.justin.tv/fast_f1

    Now showing: The 2008 Singapore Grand Prix - En Espanol!

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 16:10

    Now showing: The 2008 Singapore Grand Prix - En Espanol!

    How gloriously random!

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:11

    How gloriously random!

    Haha! Indeed. :)

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 16:12

    Wow, I forgot how good the track looked from the air.

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:13

    Wow, I forgot how good the track looked from the air.

    It looked VERY good from the air. Add the skyline, and it just goes on to another level.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 16:15

    It looked VERY good from the air. Add the skyline, and it just goes on to another level.

    Yeah, they did and amazing job there.

    Shame the same can't be said for Valencia.

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:19

    Shame the same can’t be said for Valencia.

    The circuit does have some potential still. Let's see if overtaking becomes better there this year with the new regs and the circuit mods.

    If it still doesn't work after this year, it's probably doomed to be shortlived.

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:26

    Massa's pitstop mess-up: Madre de Dios, indeed.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 16:34

    Massa’s pitstop mess-up: Madre de Dios, indeed.

    Awesome!

    I got to hear loads of Italian and Spanish Swearwords last night!!!

  • Journeyer14/03/2009 at 16:35

    I got to hear loads of Italian and Spanish Swearwords last night!!!

    Where were you last night? I know tons of Spanish swearwords - our language ended up adopting them. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 16:41

    I got to hear loads of Italian and Spanish Swearwords last night!!!

    Where were you last night? I know tons of Spanish swearwords - our language ended up adopting them. :P

    Poker Night - but it also involved Wii, singing, dancing and waay too much drinking!!!

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 16:48

    Hmmm. Photo for Me to use as his decktop picture?

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/123921

  • me14/03/2009 at 17:03

    Hmmm. Photo for Me to use as his decktop picture?

    now that is a cog ;)

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 17:14

    now that is a cog ;)

    Thought you'd approve. :D

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 18:34

    Anyone who walks in the flat can now tell that the other half is away very easily.

    Engine block degreasing in the bath. :D

  • Kathi14/03/2009 at 18:40

    Kimi took part in a snowmobile race today. He won the enduro race and finished second overall

  • littlepurplegoth14/03/2009 at 18:51

    So does that post mean that everything is plugged in and working?

    LPG ducks and runs for cover....

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 18:54

    So does that post mean that everything is plugged in and working?

    About as far opposite from that as you can get!

    We're assessing our options.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 18:55

    About as far opposite from that as you can get!

    uh oh... :(

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 18:57

    uh oh… :(

    Mmm. I'm pretty sure our studio is haunted. As soon as things get inside, they stop working.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 19:03

    Mmm. I’m pretty sure our studio is haunted. As soon as things get inside, they stop working.

    aww, perhaps it's panda? ;)

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:03

    aww, perhaps it’s panda? ;)

    Oooh, could be. I'll ask her!

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:04

    Oooh, could be. I’ll ask her!

    She's not saying.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 19:04

    Oooh, could be. I’ll ask her!

    :)

  • lou14/03/2009 at 19:04

    She’s not saying.

    :D

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:05

    She’s not saying.

    She needs proper interrogation. Orange jumpsuit time!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 19:09

    She’s not saying.

    She needs proper interrogation. Orange jumpsuit time!

    How do you waterboard a panda?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:09

    She needs proper interrogation. Orange jumpsuit time!

    I think maybe the WWF would frown upon that. :)

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:10

    I think maybe the WWF would frown upon that. :)

    I don't care what wrestlers think. ;)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:13

    I think maybe the WWF would frown upon that.

    Just do it, we won't do/say anything.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 19:16

    I don’t care what wrestlers think. ;)

    hehe :)

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:18

    how are are all this fine evening?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 19:20

    how are are all this fine evening?

    Very good thanks. Just had dinner and about to video-skype with the olds...

  • lou14/03/2009 at 19:24

    how are are all this fine evening?

    i'm okay, ploughing through a load of homework as usual.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:26

    chris evans: 14/03/2009 at 19:18:48

    how are are all this fine evening?

    Alreet chris. Dug out F106 and realised I still cant drive, that, or Heidfeld can't drive, which is definatly not true.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:27

    Alreet chris. Dug out F106 and realised I still cant drive, that, or Heidfeld can’t drive, which is definatly not true.

    I think I've still got that knocking around somewhere. Shame I don't have a PS2 here. I'm playing Forza 2 at the moment. It's no F1, but at least Suzuka and Silverstone are on here.

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:28

    Steak is getting to room temperature before flash frying and the jacket potato is in the oven.

    Looking live a good evening. :D

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:29

    Looking live a good evening. :D

    Like a good evening.... Typing looks terrible.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:30

    It’s no F1, but at least Suzuka and Silverstone are on here.

    Motor racing is motorracing, if you can drive it (and inevitably crash it) then I like it. Forza aint to bad.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:31

    Reading comments and trying to take the 130R flat out at the same time is a bad combination....

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:31

    Steak is getting to room temperature before flash frying and the jacket potato is in the oven.

    Is the engine still in the bath?

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:32

    Reading comments and trying to take the 130R flat out at the same time is a bad combination….

    I'm reading comments inbetween crashes.

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:33

    Is the engine still in the bath?

    Yup. Will be overnight.

    Tomorrow the rebuild starts if it all checks out ok.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:34

    I’m reading comments inbetween crashes.

    Ditto.

    I can't wait for the new F1 game. We will have to have do a SPC World Championship online.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:38

    Tomorrow the rebuild starts if it all checks out ok.

    What if you need a bath?

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:41

    I can’t wait for the new F1 game. We will have to have do a SPC World Championship online.

    Managed to make it 4 laps in before crashing. That idea sounds great when it eventually comes out, most looking forward to it coming out on the PSP I think it says.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 19:41

    how are are all this fine evening?

    I'm good. Had a day of not doing very much at all, watched a bit of racing from last year but wasn't as good as I'd hoped it would be (ALMS Laguna). Then saw the end of Ireland vs Scotland rugby.

    Food is cooking, then I ought to do a bit of homework then a DVD + wine I think.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 19:41

    And golf tomorrow!

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:41

    What if you need a bath?

    We have a shower off the bedroom. Problem solved.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:42

    We have a shower off the bedroom. Problem solved.

    And if that breaks?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:43

    And if that breaks?

    :)

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:43

    Managed to make it 4 laps in before crashing. That idea sounds great when it eventually comes out, most looking forward to it coming out on the PSP I think it says.

    All they have said officially is 'second half of 2009' I think. I guess they have only just been able to start working on the car models though. I'm claiming the review on it as soon as there is a release date though so est assured I'll keep you updated! :)

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:44

    And if that breaks?

    Gym is open from 6 am till 10pm tomorrow. ;)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 19:46

    Gym is open from 6 am till 10pm tomorrow.

    What if that is affected by the current econmic climate and closes?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 19:49

    What if that is affected by the current econmic climate and closes?

    Hope it rains?

  • lou14/03/2009 at 19:49

    Hope it rains?

    hahah :D

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 19:52

    Hope it rains?

    Pretty much.

    Or take my neighboursMX-5 to the car wash and leave the roof down :D

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 19:58

    Nooooooooo!

    Wipeout instead of Catchphrase? Why would they do such a thing??

  • Dan Brunell14/03/2009 at 20:12

    Evening all;

    This was on F1F:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DJqWxf0K8

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

    I haven't been this embarrassed to be an American since Michael Andretti entered a McLaren.

    I hate the Fox network so much. Why must they own Speed AND the rights to F1.

  • Dan Brunell14/03/2009 at 20:14

    This was on F1F:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DJqWxf0K8

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

    Let's make a parody video where the NASCAR mole can't fit inside the car and he can't make right hand turns

  • Andrew (AJL7 on LastFM)14/03/2009 at 20:21

    Hi

    My first time on the live commenting thing so please be gentle with me!

    Would like to record some on board footage "a la DC" style for road and trackday use.

    Does anyone have any knowledge/experience of bullet cams and be able to recommend a system?

    The 2 I have tracked down so far are;

    1/ Oregon Scientific ATC5K Action Camera

    2/ Mini DVR1 Package from Dogcam

    Any help much appreciated.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:23

    Hi

    My first time on the live commenting thing so please be gentle with me!

    Hi there! I'm afraid I can't be of any help, but welcome along anyway!

  • lou14/03/2009 at 20:24

    My first time on the live commenting thing so please be gentle with me!

    Heya Andrew, welcome to the comments :) i don't know anything about bullet cams, sorry.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 20:26

    This was on F1F:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DJqWxf0K8

    Nascar is the king. Got that?

    Oh dear, what did I just watch?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:27

    Oh dear, what did I just watch?

    The truth my friend.

    The truth.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 20:28

    The truth my friend.

    NASCAR is the king!

    wow I suddenly feel wrong

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:28

    wow I suddenly feel wrong

    Me too :(

  • Rich14/03/2009 at 20:31

    Oh dear, what did I just watch?

    What did you expect from FOX TV?

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 20:33

    Eugh, F1 06 is so good and so frustrating at the same time. You can get pole at Monaco in a Toro Rosso but struggle to get out of Q1 at Catalunya in a Ferrari. They made the hard difficulty too hard and medium too easy, and some of the kerbs are deathtraps.

  • Andrew (AJL7 on LastFM)14/03/2009 at 20:34

    Heard about this clip and its awful!

    I did notice the digger cam being used so maybe thats what i should buy!

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 20:36

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7931354.stm

    The BBC have put together their own 2008 review. Anyone think they'll be using some of these videos for the pre-race shows, are they just taking advantage of the archives for the website?

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 20:37

    They made the hard difficulty too hard and medium too easy, and some of the kerbs are deathtraps.

    Yepp, its rubbish sometimes. my favourite bit of it was when i did career mode, i won the championship in something like a Midland or something like that, won it by alot of points too....the offers i got for the next season we're Super Aguri, Red Bull to be their SECOND driver, but Ferrari gave me a test to be their test driver. how nice of them lol

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:38

    Eugh, F1 06 is so good and so frustrating at the same time. You can get pole at Monaco in a Toro Rosso but struggle to get out of Q1 at Catalunya in a Ferrari. They made the hard difficulty too hard and medium too easy, and some of the kerbs are deathtraps.

    Yeah, the difficulty was always skewed wrong in the Studio Liverpool F1 games. I'm so glad Codemasters got the licence, they are the racing game kings. Plus, it won't be PlayStation exclusive anymore :)

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 20:39

    Yeah, the difficulty was always skewed wrong in the Studio Liverpool F1 games. I’m so glad Codemasters got the licence, they are the racing game kings. Plus, it won’t be PlayStation exclusive anymore :)

    The thought of a 20 grid f1 race over Xbox Live is incredile. ahh I can't wait. Codies always do sensational racing games so the outlook is good.

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 20:39

    Yeah, the difficulty was always skewed wrong in the Studio Liverpool F1 games. I’m so glad Codemasters got the licence, they are the racing game kings. Plus, it won’t be PlayStation exclusive anymore :)

    Yeah but probably won't be on PS2 and my PC only has a 2 GHz processor and 2GB RAM so the PC version will lag lots. :(

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:40

    Yepp, its rubbish sometimes. my favourite bit of it was when i did career mode, i won the championship in something like a Midland or something like that, won it by alot of points too….the offers i got for the next season we’re Super Aguri, Red Bull to be their SECOND driver, but Ferrari gave me a test to be their test driver. how nice of them lol

    Then you move up to hard and it takes a season and a half to even get a race seat at the back of the grid, even though you were trouncing the other drivers in every test.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:40

    Yeah but probably won’t be on PS2 and my PC only has a 2 GHz processor and 2GB RAM so the PC version will lag lots. :(

    Well if there was ever a reason to upgrade your console, this is it!

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 20:41

    The thought of a 20 grid f1 race over Xbox Live is incredile. ahh I can’t wait. Codies always do sensational racing games so the outlook is good.

    Still got a while to wait though. :(

  • RG14/03/2009 at 20:43

    wow I suddenly feel wrong

    Got to give it to them, its catchy

    They made the hard difficulty too hard and medium too easy, and some of the kerbs are deathtraps.

    Kerbs in Canada I can't do, every time I touch one of those I end up in the wall.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:44

    What was the best seat you could get on hard? I think my best was first driver with Toyota. Currently have won from pole in season 3 with Toro Rosso, but I don’t think I’ll ever get that Honda race seat : (

    I think I may have made it to Honda once but it took a long time to get there. Damn, all my game reviewer credentials are disappearing as I speak!

    Still got a while to wait though. :(

    It will be worth it :)

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 20:46

    Yeah, you can be a tester, but that's all, it's not really a third driver role.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:46

    Kerbs in Canada I can’t do, every time I touch one of those I end up in the wall.

    The so called 'wall of champions'? If you get it just right it's possible to take that final chicane flat out. It's a do or die move though!

  • RG14/03/2009 at 20:47

    I think I may have made it to Honda once but it took a long time to get there. Damn, all my game reviewer credentials are disappearing as I speak!

    I got Toyota in my second season :) Thats after winning five times in a Midland

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 20:47

    It's my fault actually for putting my original comment in the wrong place, apologies. Doohickey has it's bad points for us lazy people.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 20:49

    I got Toyota in my second season :) Thats after winning five times in a Midland

    I made the mistake of choosing the easy mode for my career. It's impossible to lose a race!

  • RG14/03/2009 at 20:50

    I made the mistake of choosing the easy mode for my career. It’s impossible to lose a race!

    Thats true, I got bored with qualifying in Malaysia I think, started 22nd and still won.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 20:51

    I made the mistake of choosing the easy mode for my career. It’s impossible to lose a race!

    Did anyone ever find that you couldn't get higher than about 18th in qualifying no matter how perfect a lap you did, but then in the race you could pass everyone in about 3 laps? Damn, the AI was poor back then.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 20:52

    Lewis Hamilton question on Ant & Dec. Easy though, what medal did he get this week.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 20:53

    Lewis Hamilton question on Ant & Dec. Easy though, what medal did he get this week.

    ITV still remember him then.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:00

    Oh, I just remembered an even worse/better problem in an F1 game. In F1 World Grand Prix on the N64 (based on the 1997 season I think) at Magny-Cours there was a gap in the tire wall between the Adelaide hairpin and Chateau d'Eau meaning you could cut out a massive chunk of the circuit and do a lap in under 50 seconds!

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 21:12

    I played that on a N64 emulator a while ago, decent game even now. Old F1 games have something about them, especially F1 97. I'd hope that F1 09 has the safety car, but we've not seen that since 2000, so I won't hold my breath.

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 21:13

    What a superb bit of steak that was. :D

    Served almost mooing. I think that 16oz is a bit much for a light meal though.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 21:14

    I played that on a N64 emulator a while ago, decent game even now. Old F1 games have something about them, especially F1 97. I’d hope that F1 09 has the safety car, but we’ve not seen that since 2000, so I won’t hold my breath.

    *remembers the safety car minigame in one previous F1 game at a night time monaco*

    Good times. Was that F1 98? I hope not, was an awful game... :(

  • RG14/03/2009 at 21:14

    but we’ve not seen that since 2000, so I won’t hold my breath.

    Was Giancarlo Fisichella, came into the pits same time the safety car came out, had to go an entire lap needing a new cone.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:15

    I played that on a N64 emulator a while ago, decent game even now. Old F1 games have something about them, especially F1 97. I’d hope that F1 09 has the safety car, but we’ve not seen that since 2000, so I won’t hold my breath.

    Did you see the bonus track you could unlock? I think it was supposed to be in Hawaii and the track went through a volcano. Let's see Tilke beat that!

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 21:18

    BATracer practise was slightly disappointing. Full wet set up and wet tyres and totalled the car on the first lap. OOPS.

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 21:18

    The safety car ring game was in 99. Don't remember that volcano track, sounds awesome. My 98 doesn't work and I want to be Ricardo Rosset :(

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 21:25

    christine said there’s one in drop.io. good luck finding it though.

    There was one after your liaison at the Williams factory when you abandoned Christine for Clare

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:25

    Did you see the bonus track you could unlock? I think it was supposed to be in Hawaii and the track went through a volcano. Let’s see Tilke beat that!

    Here it is (recommend watching with the sound off)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDIFDluQtDk

    And that reminds me, Villeneuve wouldn't licence his name for the game so he was called 'Vacation'!

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 21:26

    There was one after your liaison at the Williams factory when you abandoned Christine for Clare

    Hehe.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:31

    Hehe.

    How did the mixer shopping go by the way?

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 21:31

    I’d hope that F1 09 has the safety car, but we’ve not seen that since 2000, so I won’t hold my breath.

    I've never played one with a safety car. Didn't they say they would include it in the new game?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:32

    I’ve never played one with a safety car. Didn’t they say they would include it in the new game?

    Yeah, it sound like it's going to be very much a simulation.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 21:32

    Here it is (recommend watching with the sound off)

    It's got a bridge. Best. Track. Ever.

    Wouldn't like flipping into the volcano though, that may be a flaw when it comes to safety.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 21:32

    How did the mixer shopping go by the way?

    We bought a mixer. It didn't work. Mixer will be returned. We are doing our best to sort a solution before tomorrow.

    Still, it got us out the house!

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 21:33

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant.

    It is amazing how many people give their kids famous names. At the same time I worked with a Michael Jackson and a father and son both called David Bowie. I also worked with a Bob Hope.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:35

    We bought a mixer. It didn’t work. Mixer will be returned. We are doing our best to sort a solution before tomorrow.

    Gutted.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 21:36

    Gutted.

    That's what we said. Sort of. :)

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 21:37

    That’s what we said. Sort of. :)

    I can only begin to imagine.... :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 21:40

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant.

    It is amazing how many people give their kids famous names. At the same time I worked with a Michael Jackson and a father and son both called David Bowie. I also worked with a Bob Hope.

    What about Michael Bolton? :-D

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 21:43

    What about Michael Bolton?

    Was he named after someone famous?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/03/2009 at 21:52

    What about Michael Bolton?

    Was he named after someone famous?

    Have you seen 'Office Space'?

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 21:56

    Have you seen ‘Office Space’?

    I..I...I could blow the building up...

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:18

    what are the chances that Henry Lloyd are sponsors Brawn GP? i've been looking at some pics of the team from testing and both Rubens and Jenson appear to be wearing white hats with the Henry Lloyd logo on.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 22:20

    what are the chances that Henry Lloyd are sponsors Brawn GP? i’ve been looking at some pics of the team from testing and both Rubens and Jenson appear to be wearing white hats with the Henry Lloyd logo on.

    Possibly, good spot. I've also noticed on the pdf files there are a load of names across the bottom of all the pdfs on Brawn's website... any idea if anyone knows if they could be sponsor related? Only one I recognise is IBM...

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:25

    Have you seen ‘Office Space’?

    No

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:25

    Only one I recognise is IBM…

    STL is Standard Template Library used in C++

    Laverstoke Park is a Organic Butchers Shop

    Endless provides finance for Management Buyouts

    Cytec does stuff with chemicals and that

    AlpineStars deals in motorracing clothing equipment

    PerkinElmer is some sort of science research?

    I assume you know what Bridgestone is

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:28

    Laverstoke Park is Jody Scheckter's organic farm / university which occupies 3000 acres of Hampshire. They used to supply organic stuff to Honda.

    Perkin Elmer make scientific instruments and equipment so possibly they supply testing equipment of some kind to the team.

    Looks like a list of suppliers rather than sponsors.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:32

    ooooo look what i just found - http://alpinestarsinc.com/files/desktops/franckMontagnyF12007.jpg :D

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 22:32

    Fair enough, just a possibility that arose when I saw the names.

    Bridgestone? Doesn't ring a bell. ;)

  • littlepurplegoth14/03/2009 at 22:33

    Yep - but as I said, at what point do suppliers become sponsors if the services are paid for by 'barter'?

    Oh and the other guys on the list (its on the thread where this last came up) are a communications firm...

  • littlepurplegoth14/03/2009 at 22:35

    We bought a mixer. It didn’t work. Mixer will be returned. We are doing our best to sort a solution before tomorrow.

    Still, it got us out the house!

    :-(

    Could it be the mac?

    LPG ducks and runs again

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 22:36

    ooooo look what i just found - http://alpinestarsinc.com/files/desktops/franckMontagnyF12007.jpg :D

    that is a beautiful picture!!!

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:36

    Yep - but as I said, at what point do suppliers become sponsors if the services are paid for by ‘barter’?

    If they are offering goods in return for advetising etc or even at a discount you could argue that they are sponsors but very minor sponsors.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:36

    that is a beautiful picture!!!

    :) as is this one http://alpinestarsinc.com/files/desktops/rubensBarrichelloF12007.jpg :D

  • Jon Waldock14/03/2009 at 22:38
  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:38

    :) as is this one http://alpinestarsinc.com/files/desktops/rubensBarrichelloF12007.jpg :D

    Dear Mr Brawn,

    Take a look at this image, you can see that you can add colour to cars without their being sponsors. Paint it black, come on, I know you want to.

    Plus highlighters work better on darker colours

    RG

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:39

    Dear Mr Brawn,

    :D lol

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 22:41

    Dear Mr Brawn,

    Any chance of a trip to Brackley to see your car up close and personal?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 22:41
  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:43

    I thought I would have a go at adding a pic via the doohickey to. Slightly off topic compared to pics of Franck. http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/horsehead-nebula-jpg

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 22:43
  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:44

    I'm on a roll here.

    Dear Dr. Theissen

    Now I know you like to keep the Sauber name in the team, but lets say you keep something else from Sauber, ie, the blue car. Now, I don't mean a single stripe, I mean an entirely blue car. Just as a Sauber fan for a few years would like something else kept, and it would colour up the grid. Think of BMW being the trendsetters.

    RG

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 22:45

    Dear Mr Brawn,

    Please could you win the championship?

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:45

    I thought I would have a go at adding a pic via the doohickey to. Slightly off topic compared to pics of Franck. http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/horsehead-nebula-jpg

    wow!!!

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:46

    Woohoo!

    i thought you might like it :)

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:47

    Please could you win the championship?

    seconded :D

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:47

    wow!!!

    It's where stars are made so no doubt Franck started off there.

    Well it is a pod panel tomorrow night

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 22:47

    what are the chances that Henry Lloyd are sponsors Brawn GP? i’ve been looking at some pics of the team from testing and both Rubens and Jenson appear to be wearing white hats with the Henry Lloyd logo on.

    It's 'Henri Lloyd' :-D

    Just picking up on it as James Allen did the same in his blog recently. As for them being sponsors: doubt it. They're a high-end yacht clothing company. I could understand them becoming a partner/supplier though, much like Puma or Alpinestars etc.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:48

    It’s where stars are made so no doubt Franck started off there.

    Well it is a pod panel tomorrow night

    lol :D

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 22:48

    It’s where stars are made so no doubt Franck started off there.

    Well it is a pod panel tomorrow night

    :)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:49

    Well it is a pod panel tomorrow night

    Could be, Could Not be. No matter what, I've still got some scribbling to do.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 22:49

    Could be, Could Not be. No matter what, I’ve still got some scribbling to do.

    And some YMCA practice.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 22:50

    Could be, Could Not be. No matter what, I’ve still got some scribbling to do.

    It is looking more likely now, but still no guarantees!

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:52

    It is looking more likely now, but still no guarantees!

    Sugar.

    Ah well,

    Young Man, there's no need to feel down

    I said young man, pick yourself off the ground

    ...

    ...It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A [With actions from Steven Roy, it was his fault]

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:53

    Ah well,

    *starts to pray that she will be home, and will have power in time for the podpanel so that she can listen to RG sing + the podpanel* :D

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:54

    *starts to pray that she will be home, and will have power in time for the podpanel so that she can listen to RG sing + the podpanel* :D

    This better not end on youtube.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 22:55

    This better not end on youtube.

    What a great idea!

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:55

    This better not end on youtube.

    i would never dream of such a thing. :)

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:55

    What a great idea!

    I hate me. [Not Mr C 'me' btw, he's still a genius]

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:56

    It’s where stars are made so no doubt Franck started off there

    I should have said the horsehead nebula is about 50 light years from top to bottom and is just a cloud of dust and hydrogen which makes stars.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 22:57

    I should have said the horsehead nebula is about 50 light years from top to bottom and is just a cloud of dust and hydrogen which makes stars.

    Who ever said romance is dead?

  • me14/03/2009 at 22:57

    damn place looks more like rumbelows with every passing minute.

    evening all.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 22:57

    This better not end on youtube.

    It's on sidepodcast. It will be available to the world without youtube being involved.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 22:58

    Sugar.

    Ah well,

    Young Man, there’s no need to feel down

    I said young man, pick yourself off the ground

    …It’s fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A [With actions from Steven Roy, it was his fault]

    There's no need to be unhappy!

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 22:59

    damn place looks more like rumbelows with every passing minute.

    evening, whats rumbelows?

  • RG14/03/2009 at 22:59

    It’s on sidepodcast. It will be available to the world without youtube being involved.

    At least it shouldn't make the podcast.

    Shouldn't it? I'm already on youtube so, no big deal.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:59

    I should have said the horsehead nebula is about 50 light years from top to bottom ...

    50 light years?! wow

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 22:59

    It’s on sidepodcast. It will be available to the world without youtube being involved.

    Then again, the next sidepodcast diaries?

    Just a thought... ;)

  • lou14/03/2009 at 22:59

    evening all.

    good evening Mr C :D

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:00

    evening, whats rumbelows?

    That's what I said!! An electronics discount store, apparently.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:00

    damn place looks more like rumbelows with every passing minute.

    showing your age there, me :D

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:00

    Then again, the next sidepodcast diaries?

    :D

    Always looking for ideas.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:00

    Evnin guv.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:01

    showing your age there, me :D

    Now I sound old. I'm not, honest.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:01

    Now I sound old. I’m not, honest.

    I've heard of it before.

    It sponsored the League Cup from 1990-1992

  • Joe14/03/2009 at 23:02

    http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5045147,00.html

    If I didn't know how testing went, I'd think that was a joke article. I genuinely laughed when I saw the first paragraph.

  • me14/03/2009 at 23:02

    It sponsored the League Cup from 1990-1992

    i think they might be sponsoring sidepodcast.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:02

    50 light years?! wow

    I can't remember the actual distance but it is something like 30-50 light years.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:03

    i think they might be sponsoring sidepodcast.

    Like before every live show have some piece of equipment speaking.

    'Sidepodcast, sponsored by Rumbalows'

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:03

    Always looking for ideas.

    Mixer madness?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:04

    i think they might be sponsoring sidepodcast.

    That's unfortunate, there is an entire section on their wikipedia page titled 'Demise'.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:04

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumbelows

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:05

    That’s unfortunate, there is an entire section on their wikipedia page titled ‘Demise’.

    Ah, I have heard of Radio Rentals.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:05

    That’s unfortunate, there is an entire section on their wikipedia page titled ‘Demise’.

    Is it the biggest section too?

  • me14/03/2009 at 23:05

    Ah, I have heard of Radio Rentals.

    i've heard of fred dawes.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:06

    Ah, I have heard of Radio Rentals.

    I don't know why I've heard of Radio Rentals though. Did they rent radios? I don't understand.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:06

    Ah, I have heard of Radio Rentals.

    I'm pretty sure my parents had a TV from them back in the day

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:07
  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:10

    I've never heard of them so reckon they must have been local to England, maybe Steven knows?

  • me14/03/2009 at 23:10

    Funny how the only link on the page says Picture of a empty former branch of Rumbelows in 2007

    12 years and they can't do anything interesting with that shop front?

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:10

    Funny how the only link on the page says Picture of a empty former branch of Rumbelows in 2007

    Like the first comment on Flickr says: "Thats well weird it hasn't been changed "

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 23:10

    I don’t know why I’ve heard of Radio Rentals though. Did they rent radios? I don’t understand.

    They did. And televisions, when both where very expensive and it would prove easier for families to rent rather than buy up front. Another plus was that they could get a newer model when their current one was out-of-date.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:11

    Oh no, after looking it up on Wiki I've got myself on to YouTube looking at old ads. This might not end well.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:11

    I’ve never heard of them so reckon they must have been local to England, maybe Steven knows?

    I have heard of Rumbelows but I am not sure if they were only in England. They certainly did a lot of TV ads.

    BTW I hope you are not suggesting I am so old I would remember. I may have been 27 for a few years but I am still that age.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:12

    BTW I hope you are not suggesting I am so old I would remember. I may have been 27 for a few years but I am still that age.

    Ahem, I think I'm older Steven!

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:12

    They did. And Televisions, when both where very expensive and it would prove easier for families to rent rather than buy up front. Another plus was that they could get a newer model when their current one was out-of-date.

    Televisions I can understand. It never really occurred to me that radios would be that expensive.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:13

    They did. And Televisions, when both where very expensive and it would prove easier for families to rent rather than buy up front. Another plus was that they could get a newer model when their current one was out-of-date.

    You don't work in advertising do you?

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:13

    They did. And Televisions, when both where very expensive and it would prove easier for families to rent rather than buy up front. Another plus was that they could get a newer model when their current one was out-of-date.

    TVs then were very unreliable like mediatemple. So all they companies that rented them out had a fleet of TV repair men who would come and fix it or more often than not leave a temporary replacement.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:14

    Ahem, I think I’m older Steven!

    :D

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:14

    Ahem, I think I’m older Steven!

    28?

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:14

    Televisions I can understand. It never really occurred to me that radios would be that expensive.

    I can't remember anyone renting radios but I think the problem was reliability rather than initial purchase cost wih them.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:14

    28?

    Of course ;)

  • Andy Taylor14/03/2009 at 23:15

    I don’t know why I’ve heard of Radio Rentals though. Did they rent radios? I don’t understand.

    They certainly did, back when radios cost a lot of money, beyond the reach of the typical family. They branched out into TVs and Video Recorders as the technology was introduced. We had a Radio Rentals Video Recorder in the early 1980s and getting a TV and video from them was almost compulsory when I was a student. They even had special student deals that lasted an academic year instead of 12 months minimum.

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 23:15

    You don’t work in advertising do you?

    No, but I have an extensive amount of useless information tucked up in my cranium.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:16

    No, but I have an extensive amount of useless information tucked up in my cranium.

    You and me both, we should do a pub quiz some time.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:18

    You and me both, we should do a pub quiz some time.

    You could sign up for the sidepodquiz. There should be some of those in the not too distant future.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:19

    Just for the record, I have officially renamed Sebring. It's now called Le Seb Ring.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:19

    Just for the record, I have officially renamed Sebring. It’s now called Le Seb Ring.

    :D

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:19

    You could sign up for the sidepodquiz. There should be some of those in the not too distant future.

    Ahem, yes, Sidepodquiz... um... or... there's this really cool quiz on a Wednesday...

  • me14/03/2009 at 23:21

    Just for the record, I have officially renamed Sebring. It’s now called Le Seb Ring.

    gonna be a long 12hrs.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:22

    gonna be a long 12hrs.

    Did you know Klien's also driving?

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:22

    Did you know Klien’s also driving?

    who else is driving??

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:23

    Just for the record, I have officially renamed Sebring. It’s now called Le Seb Ring.

    hehe :D

  • me14/03/2009 at 23:23

    Did you know Klien’s also driving?

    i did not know that... klien who?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:23

    You could sign up for the sidepodquiz. There should be some of those in the not too distant future.

    Sounds good to me.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:24

    who else is driving??

    Have a guess... ;)

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:24

    who else is driving??

    McNish is in one of the two new Audis with Capello. Can't remember who is in the other one.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:24

    Did you know Klien’s also driving?

    BOOOOO.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:25

    Sounds good to me.

    Why what do you know

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodquiz

    A useful links

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:25

    Ahem, yes, Sidepodquiz… um… or… there’s this really cool quiz on a Wednesday…

    That also sounds good.

  • Flibster14/03/2009 at 23:25

    Am I the only one who admits to being past his 20's? Damn...

    Have also found a useful link for Mr C - Round up of energy drinks. :D

    Linky - Be aware - there is a reasonble amount of double entendres.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:25

    BOOOOO.

    He's contracted at BMW so I'm obliged to cheer for him.

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:26

    Just checking the Sebring schedule. The PDF tells me it runs from 10:30 am to 10:30 pm, but doesn't mention which time zone. I'm assuming Florida time.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:26

    Have a guess… ;)

    i know Franck is... that's the whole reason i know about the race :P and RG said Klien was... but it's not a two car race :P

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:26

    Why what do you know

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodquiz

    A useful links

    I was listening, i just hadn't got involved with this commenting lark yet!

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:27

    i know Franck is… that’s the whole reason i know about the race :P and RG said Klien was… but it’s not a two car race :P

    Le Seb?

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 23:27

    Just a quick thought that crossed me mind... the F1 Question of Sport special is on BBC1 this coming friday I believe. Not sure about the Inside Sport F1 special though.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:27

    I was listening, i just hadn’t got involved with this commenting lark yet!

    I mean if you want to sign up for it.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:27

    Just checking the Sebring schedule. The PDF tells me it runs from 10:30 am to 10:30 pm, but doesn’t mention which time zone. I’m assuming Florida time.

    Yes it's Eastern - but there's only a 4hr difference because they switched to summer time last week and we switch on Melbourne weekend.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:27

    That also sounds good.

    www.pitlanefanatic.com/

    Sign up for the site before Wednesday and then go to the chat link for the quiz at 8:30.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:28

    Yes it’s Eastern - but there’s only a 4hr difference because they switched to summer time last week and we switch on Melbourne weekend.

    That can only end in tears, GMT changes to BST on the same day as a early morning race? Uh-oh

  • Andy Taylor14/03/2009 at 23:28

    Here's a link to a typical Radio Rentals radio of the 1940s

    http://www.vintage-technology.info/pages/radios/rr56.htm

    The page mentions that in 1955 the company had over 280,000 subscribers and stopped renting radios in 1965.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:28

    Le Seb?

    so it's a four car race? McNish, Franck, Le seb, and Klien? :P

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:28

    so it’s a four car race? McNish, Franck, Le seb, and Klien? :P

    Pretty much.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:29

    so it’s a four car race? McNish, Franck, Le seb, and Klien? :P

    Yup.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:29

    who else is driving??

    I found an entry list:

    http://www.sebringraceway.com/

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:29

    Yes it’s Eastern - but there’s only a 4hr difference because they switched to summer time last week and we switch on Melbourne weekend.

    Uh-oh...

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:30

    Pretty much.

    :D

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:30

    Yes it’s Eastern - but there’s only a 4hr difference because they switched to summer time last week and we switch on Melbourne weekend.

    Oh no!

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:30

    Just checking the Sebring schedule. The PDF tells me it runs from 10:30 am to 10:30 pm, but doesn’t mention which time zone. I’m assuming Florida time.

    Speed are covering from 10 am Eastern 2pm UK.

    McNish is on Speed on Sunday http://www.americanlemans.com/index_news.php?n=12474

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:31

    I found an entry list:

    http://www.sebringraceway.com/

    Hmm, Dario Franchitti's doing it, might look out for him, he's British at least.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:31

    Speed are covering from 10 am Eastern 2pm UK.

    MotorsTV has the full thing too.

    I think Speed is dropping out for a few hours, probably for NASCAR.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:32

    Pedro Lamy too.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:32

    That can only end in tears, GMT changes to BST on the same day as a early morning race? Uh-oh

    Oh dear. At least we should be early rather than late.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:32

    so it’s a four car race? McNish, Franck, Le seb, and Klien? :P

    There are a few Americans as well

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:32

    Pedro Lamy too.

    Same side as Klien, or as I like to call it, the Right Side.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:33

    The race starts in 6 days 15 hours 1 minute 18 seconds

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:34

    I found an entry list:

    http://www.sebringraceway.com/

    Very small entry so far...

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:35

    The race starts in 6 days 15 hours 1 minute 18 seconds

    Are you gonna do that every second until the race starts? :P

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:35

    Are you gonna do that every second until the race starts? :P

    Once a minute should be enough but it sorts out all the time zone problems

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:36

    I found an entry list:

    http://www.sebringraceway.com/

    aw no wurz :( i'll be supporting peugeot total car number 8 then :)

  • Christine14/03/2009 at 23:36

    I really thought this was never going to see the light of day:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/03/14/f1-digest-2009-season-preview-the-drivers/

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:36

    Very small entry so far…

    Sebring isn't the longest of tracks though if I remember correctly?

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 23:36

    Crap-o-rama: NOTW rehashing old news

    Anyone else noticed that F1/motor racing seems to be much more en vogue at the moment?

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:36

    Interesting that Peugeuot have one all French crew and one mixed. If it is close at the finish I am sure Franck's crew will have a better last pit stop.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:37

    Sebring isn’t the longest of tracks though if I remember correctly?

    Fairly long and very bumpy.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:37

    The race starts in 6 days 15 hours 1 minute 18 seconds

    couldn't you count down till f1 instead ;) it's much more exciting

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:38

    Fairly long and very bumpy.

    I only really know it from Forza 2 to be honest. I always miss the breaking point for the hairpin.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:39

    Fairly long and very bumpy.

    It is mega bumpy. A lot of the teams who are using it as a Le Mans test figure if the car doesn't shake itself to bits in 12 hours at Sebring it will last 24 at Le Mans.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:40

    I only really know it from Forza 2 to be honest. I always miss the breaking point for the hairpin.

    Ah. There is a short configuration, does Forza use that?

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 23:40

    Anyone else noticed that F1/motor racing seems to be much more en vogue at the moment?

    You've reminded me now of that brilliant article by The Sun in January

    'WORLD CHAMPION LEWIS BUYS PIZZA'

    Awww dear.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 23:41

    You’ve reminded me now of that brilliant article by The Sun in January

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2149144.ece

    Warning: May cause journalistic harm and severe pointless article syndrome.

  • Andy Taylor14/03/2009 at 23:41

    ‘WORLD CHAMPION LEWIS BUYS PIZZA’

    Was it thin and crispy or deep pan? These things are important.

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:42

    Anyone else noticed that F1/motor racing seems to be much more en vogue at the moment?

    Why do all the headlines have to be in capitals?

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:42

    Crap-o-rama: NOTW rehashing old news haha have you see the header at the top of the article? Michelle Tomlin's brilliant new motorsports column. If that's brilliant, I'd hate to see incredible!

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:42

    Sebring drivers with F1 links:

    Pedro Lamy, Christian Klein, Franck Montagny, Sebastien Bourdais (Peugeot) - plus Sarrazin had that one Minardi start

    Allan McNish (Audi) - did Kristensen drive in F1?

    Jan Magnussen (Corvette)

    Mika Salo (Risi Ferrari)

    Gianmaria Bruni (Pecom Ferrari)

    I may have missed some and I'm sure there are more entries to come. I'm somewhat annoyed that the Scottish drivers are listed as being from Scotland and the English drivers are listed as being from the UK.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:43

    Mika Salo (Risi Ferrari)

    Gianmaria Bruni (Pecom Ferrari)

    Salo's still driving?

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:43

    Ah. There is a short configuration, does Forza use that?

    I just watched an on-board video and it is the full version on Forza, I just don't remember it being as long as it is. I love that last corner, you can really throw yourself into it.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:43

    ‘WORLD CHAMPION LEWIS BUYS PIZZA’

    I'm going to get the midnight munchies at this rate

  • Dom14/03/2009 at 23:43

    Warning: May cause journalistic harm and severe pointless article syndrome.

    The best bit is the caption under the picture:

    Pizza nut ... Lewis Hamilton

  • Andy Taylor14/03/2009 at 23:44

    I may have missed some and I’m sure there are more entries to come. I’m somewhat annoyed that the Scottish drivers are listed as being from Scotland and the English drivers are listed as being from the UK.

    That's how they are always described - Scottish sportspeople are always British when they are winning and Scottish when they're not.

  • Lukeh14/03/2009 at 23:45

    The best bit is the caption under the picture:

    I'm just glad they asked lewis to confirm this serious allegation:

    Lewis, who is dating a stupid woman, added: “My favourite restaurants are Pizza Express and Wagamama.”

    My worries have been eased.

  • chris evans14/03/2009 at 23:46

    Pizza nut … Lewis Hamilton

    This is, of course, what he is most famous for.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:46

    Lewis, who is dating a stupid woman

    True

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:46

    That’s how they are always described - Scottish sportspeople are always British when they are winning and Scottish when they’re not.

    Not in official entry lists!

  • Dank14/03/2009 at 23:48

    Scottish sportspeople are always British when they are winning and Scottish when they’re not.

    Unless they're Andy Murray of course.

  • lou14/03/2009 at 23:49

    My worries have been eased.

    :D

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:49

    That’s how they are always described - Scottish sportspeople are always British when they are winning and Scottish when they’re not.

    The Americans like us but don't like the English. It's the only possible explanation. Either that or they don't know that Scotland is temporarily part of Britain.

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:51

    The Americans like us but don’t like the English. It’s the only possible explanation. Either that or they don’t know that Scotland is temporarily part of Britain.

    Nobody likes the English.

    Especially other English.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:55

    Sebring drivers with F1 links:

    I am sure David Brabham did a few GPs

    Gil de Ferran was sporting director of Honda

    Pedro Lamy drove a season for Lotus

    Olivier Berretta did a season of F1. Piquet senior thought Berretta was something special. He is a lousy judge of driving ability

    Oliver Gavin drove the F1 safety car a few times

    Hans Joachim Stuck drove a stack of F1 races in the 70s and looks like he is racing with his so. His father Hans Stuck drove Auto Unions in the 30s

    Eric van de Poele did a little bit of F1

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:56

    Pedro Lamy drove a season for Lotus

    And a few for Minardi too.

  • Jackie14/03/2009 at 23:56

    Just seen that BBC advert for F1, don't know what all the fuss is about, they aren't even F1 cars

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:57

    Just seen that BBC advert for F1, don’t know what all the fuss is about, they aren’t even F1 cars

    The 'casual fan' won't know the difference... until they seen the new cars.

    These have been mocked up to look something like last year's cars, with the big endplates etc.

  • Steven Roy14/03/2009 at 23:57

    Just seen that BBC advert for F1, don’t know what all the fuss is about, they aren’t even F1 cars

    I haven't seen the advert yet. I keep hearing it and by the time I look up I get the end caption.

  • RG14/03/2009 at 23:58

    I haven’t seen the advert yet. I keep hearing it and by the time I look up I get the end caption.

    Its on the BBC site somewhere, here even

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7911126.stm

  • Pat W14/03/2009 at 23:59

    I am sure David Brabham did a few GPs

    I wasn't sure if that was him or his brother.

    Beretta makes a good GT driver but I'm not sure how he is in prototypes.

    I can't believe I missed out de Ferran.

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 00:00

    Just seen that BBC advert for F1, don’t know what all the fuss is about, they aren’t even F1 cars

    Hoorah, I'm not the only one who thought it was a bit bobbins.

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:00

    The ‘casual fan’ won’t know the difference… until they seen the new cars.

    These have been mocked up to look something like last year’s cars, with the big endplates etc.

    To add to that, my problem with them isn't the look, it's the overdubbed engine sounds which seem to run right through F1 history, and the fact the cars are very clearly only doing 20mph.

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 00:01

    Just seen that BBC advert for F1, don’t know what all the fuss is about, they aren’t even F1 cars

    I just like seeing F1 advertised, without it being a couple of quick clips with JA shouting "LEEEEEWWWIIIISSSS!!!!!"

  • lou15/03/2009 at 00:01

    I just like seeing F1 advertised, without it being a couple of quick clips with JA shouting “LEEEEEWWWIIIISSSS!!!!!”

    hehehehehehe :D

  • lou15/03/2009 at 00:02

    they aren’t even F1 cars

    they look like A1GP cars to me. i'm just happy cause it's getting closer and closer to the season opener :D

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 00:02

    I just like seeing F1 advertised, without it being a couple of quick clips with JA shouting “LEEEEEWWWIIIISSSS!!!!!”

    Actually rather enjoying his blog though

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:02

    I just like seeing F1 advertised, without it being a couple of quick clips with JA shouting “LEEEEEWWWIIIISSSS!!!!!”

    I think the big mitigating factor against it being a bad advert is that it's on the BBC and ends with The Chain. Yes I'm getting bored of hearing it already but it feels like we're "home" somehow.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 00:02

    Hoorah, I’m not the only one who thought it was a bit bobbins.

    It's worth the crappyness for the couple of bars of The Chain. That always makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 00:03

    Actually rather enjoying his blog though

    his blog is another story. Just shows that he really was a crap commentator. if he had been nearly as good as his blog he would not be so disliked ;)

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:03

    I wasn’t sure if that was him or his brother.

    There are three brothers. Geoff the oldest didn't do F1. Gary the middle one did a little and David I am sure did some races in a Brabham when the company was in its death throes.

    I can’t believe I missed out de Ferran.

    I won't tell Lou you missed a Hinda man.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:04

    Honda not Hinda

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:04

    his blog is another story. Just shows that he really was a crap commentator. if he had been nearly as good as his blog he would not be so disliked ;)

    Anyone noticed Legard is keeping a very low profile? I can't think why!

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 00:04

    To add to that, my problem with them isn’t the look, it’s the overdubbed engine sounds which seem to run right through F1 history, and the fact the cars are very clearly only doing 20mph.

    But at least somebody has put some thought and effort into it?

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 00:05

    Random thought for the day, Jelly Babies are quite sickening after you've eaten about 6 of them.

  • RG15/03/2009 at 00:05

    David I am sure did some races in a Brabham when the company was in its death throes.

    According to wiki, he raced in 1990 and 94 for Brabham and Simtek scoring 0 points

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 00:06

    Actually rather enjoying his blog though

    But that's the way he always should have been involved in F1.

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:06

    But at least somebody has put some thought and effort into it?

    I appreciate that and I can see what they were trying to achieve, which makes it frustrating that they didn't quite manage it.

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:07

    According to wiki, he raced in 1990 and 94 for Brabham and Simtek scoring 0 points

    And FORIX says he retired from most of the races.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:08

    I have just found the schedule for Le Seb Ring

    All times Eastern I am not converting

    Wed 2:40 - 3:35 Practice

    Thurs 3:15 - 3:40 Qualifying for LMP1/2

    Sat 10:30am to 10:30pm race

    http://www.sebringraceway.com/forms_12hour/2009FINALsked.pdf

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:08

    Random thought for the day, Jelly Babies are quite sickening after you’ve eaten about 6 of them.

    I never had that problem with anything people think is/are sickening.

  • RG15/03/2009 at 00:08

    And FORIX says he retired from most of the races.

    16 from 32 starts to be precise.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:09

    According to wiki, he raced in 1990 and 94 for Brabham and Simtek scoring 0 points

    I didn't realise he did so many races. Not surprised at the points totals. The cars were rubbish.

  • RG15/03/2009 at 00:09

    Right, better put wikipedia to rest now. Important and very long away game tomorrow, an hour away, bye all!

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 00:10

    Night RG

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 00:10

    Right, better put wikipedia to rest now. Important and very long away game tomorrow, an hour away, bye all!

    See ya RG.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:11

    1986 is going from bad to worse. Q1 no time, mechanical fault, stuck in pits.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:11

    Good night RG

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:12

    1986 is going from bad to worse. Q1 no time, mechanical fault, stuck in pits.

    RG didn't do any better "Vehicle rolls to a halt with some kind of terminal fault" No time set. Faulty terminals? Who'd have thunk it/

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:14

    See ya RG.

    1986 is going from bad to worse. Q1 no time, mechanical fault, stuck in pits.

    I'm gonna have to join this BAT Racer thing some time. Not until my coursework commitments are gone though.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 00:15

    I’m gonna have to join this BAT Racer thing some time. Not until my coursework commitments are gone though.

    When it is good it is fun. When you have Lotus reliability it is not.

  • Pat W15/03/2009 at 00:16

    When it is good it is fun. When you have Lotus reliability it is not.

    It sounds incredibly addictive. I played GPRO for a while which I think is similar.

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 00:31

    Lewis Hamilton is a great talent — potentially one of the greatest to drive a Formula One car — but if he does not have a vehicle under him that can compete with the best on the grid, then even he will end up looking ordinary. Ed Gorman http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article5904195.ece

    Does that mean he is "ordinary" in a less than brilliant car?

  • littlepurplegoth15/03/2009 at 00:36

    It means that he isn't really what could be defined as a 'great talent' :-)

  • Andy Taylor15/03/2009 at 00:38

    Does that mean he is “ordinary” in a less than brilliant car?

    We'll see in Melbourn

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:03

    Does that mean he is “ordinary” in a less than brilliant car?

    No it means even a great driver can't win if the car is rubbish. Lewis Hamilton is a great driver.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 01:07

    No it means even a great driver can’t win if the car is rubbish. Lewis Hamilton is a great driver.

    in that case - so is Jenson!! :D

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 01:07

    No it means even a great driver can’t win if the car is rubbish. Lewis Hamilton is a great driver.

    But didn't Michael Schumacher win 3 races in the rubbish F310 in 1996? Didn't Senna win 3 races in the rubbish 1992 McLaren? If Lewis is great, he'll still win at least one or two races in an awful McLaren.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 01:07

    But didn’t Michael Schumacher win 3 races in the rubbish F310 in 1996? Didn’t Senna win 3 races in the rubbish 1992 McLaren? If Lewis is great, he’ll still win at least one or two races in an awful McLaren.

    Let me add Alonso's 2 wins at the end of last year - also in a rubbish R28!

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:13

    in that case - so is Jenson!! :D

    Why

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:13

    But didn’t Michael Schumacher win 3 races in the rubbish F310 in 1996? Didn’t Senna win 3 races in the rubbish 1992 McLaren? If Lewis is great, he’ll still win at least one or two races in an awful McLaren.

    Depends how you define rubbish?

  • lou15/03/2009 at 01:15

    Why

    well if Lewis is a great driver but can only win in a car that is capable of winning gps and the championship then who is to say Jenson isn't the same? it's not like Jenson has ever really got to drive a car that is capable of winning the championship is it?

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:21

    well if Lewis is a great driver but can only win in a car that is capable of winning gps and the championship then who is to say Jenson isn’t the same? it’s not like Jenson has ever really got to drive a car that is capable of winning the championship is it?

    Maybe not until this week.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 01:26

    Maybe not until this week.

    we will have to wait and see. I refuse to get all excited... i just wont.... it was quick for four days.... but for four days that don't really matter in the wider picture. they may have just been appealing for sponsors or something. i shall reserve my excitement for the first race and not for the media talk.

    well that's what i keep trying to tell myself anyway ;)

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:33

    we will have to wait and see. I refuse to get all excited… i just wont…. it was quick for four days…. but for four days that don’t really matter in the wider picture. they may have just been appealing for sponsors or something. i shall reserve my excitement for the first race and not for the media talk.

    well that’s what i keep trying to tell myself anyway ;)

    I hope Brawn are quick but if someone had said to me a few weeks ago that Brawn would be fastest and McLaren slowest and that McLaren's fastest lap would be four seconds off Brawn's with the same engine I would have been tempted to ask if they had ingested any suspicious substances. But who knows.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:34

    I see someone dropped a pic of the crab nebula.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 01:35

    But who knows.

    i hope Brawn are quick too. but i equally hope we are not swept over by some kinda Brawn/Button mania.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:37

    i hope Brawn are quick too. but i equally hope we are not swept over by some kinda Brawn/Button mania.

    It would confuse the British media who hyped Jenson till Lewis arrived then dropped him like last week's hamburger when the new guy turned up. If they had to drop Lewis and go back to Jenson it would be interesting to see how he reacted.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 01:44

    It would confuse the British media who hyped Jenson till Lewis arrived then dropped him like last week’s hamburger when the new guy turned up. If they had to drop Lewis and go back to Jenson it would be interesting to see how he reacted.

    i just hate the media when it comes to this kinda thing. and i dislike it when people 'support' a winning driver and drop them when they are given a not so great car. That's not what i call supporting. Can you tell i'm still annoyed at the media and the so called 'fans' that dropped Jenson for Lewis? :P

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:56

    i just hate the media when it comes to this kinda thing. and i dislike it when people ’support’ a winning driver and drop them when they are given a not so great car. That’s not what i call supporting. Can you tell i’m still annoyed at the media and the so called ‘fans’ that dropped Jenson for Lewis? :P

    One of the big problems with the sport and it is something I have argued for years is that the majority of fans and media have no clue what is actually happening and what the drivers are doing. They pick up on personalities and follow them because they can't tell the difference between one driver and another. Partly that is due to the technical regs which give us cars which do't appear to move around a lot. If they were like the cars of the 50s or 60s people could easily see the different driving styles etc.

    It's also partly due to television which doesn't highlight such things. In this weeks Autosport they were talking about some of the things FOTA want introduced to improve the TV coverage. One of the items they wanted was a graphic that showed the lines different drivers took through corners so you could have Jenson's car on track and a line showing how Hamilton had taken the corner and one showing how Alonso had taken it. The whole thing would be shot from overhead so that you could clearly see what was being done.

    One of the problems with the TV coverage is that ove the last ten years or so cameras have become so light that you can have a lot of them on the car so you end up with a shot looking at the side or visor of someone's helmet. That doesn't tell you what the car is doing or what the driver is trying to make it do. They need wider shots rather than tighter shots.

    What they do is the equivalent of keeping a close up shot on part of the ball or on David Beckham's ankle when he takes a free kick. You would have no idea if he had scored or hit the corner flag. If you have a shot of Massa's helmet you can tell the car is on the ground but you have no idea if he is on a good part of the ground.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 01:56

    That turned out longer than it was in my head.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 02:03

    That turned out longer than it was in my head.

    :D

  • lou15/03/2009 at 02:07

    One of the big problems with the sport and it is something I have argued for years is that the majority of fans and media have no clue what is actually happening and what the drivers are doing. They pick up on personalities and follow them because they can’t tell the difference between one driver and another. Partly that is due to the technical regs which give us cars which do’t appear to move around a lot. If they were like the cars of the 50s or 60s people could easily see the different driving styles etc.

    that's a prime example of how my dad used to be, and how his friends are. they pick up and role with that the media say cause they don't know enough about the sport. They just see the people that win and the people that don't win and don't really see how the cars could be different etc. they are also often the type of fan that will come to me and tell me that i support a rubbish team that will always be rubbish and should be patriotic and support Lewis i have an mbe Hamilton. which never goes down with me very well ;)

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 02:16

    It's like all the people who thought Kimi's performance dropped last year because of a problem in his head when it was a problem in his car.

    I hate the fact that F1 has become so 'patriotic'. It wasn't always like that. It started with Mansell really. Before that people would support all sorts of nationalities. The problem with it is the goups of fans who form as a result of their shared driver or country don't learn about the sport and as soon as there is not a driver from their country or at least not one who is doing well they drift away.

    When Schumacher retired I predicted that within a few years a lot of the Schumacher fans would disappear within a few years because they were involved in some personality cult which was only periferally related to motor racing. The majority of those people knew Schumi good and everyone else bad. If that's all you know and their is no Schumi you have no interest in F1.

    Bernie should be finding ways to educate and hook these people rather than loose them when their favourite starts losing or retires.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 02:19

    Bernie should be finding ways to educate and hook these people rather than loose them when their favourite starts losing or retires.

    it will certainly be interesting to see what the media do if mclaren aren't so good this year.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 02:29

    it will certainly be interesting to see what the media do if mclaren aren’t so good this year.

    They will probably decide that the championship has gone to Lewis's head and he has inherited Kimi's mental problems.

  • lou15/03/2009 at 02:30

    They will probably decide that the championship has gone to Lewis’s head and he has inherited Kimi’s mental problems.

    ahahaha :D

  • lou15/03/2009 at 02:32

    okay as i've got to be up at 8 in the morning looks like i should get some sleep. I hope i'll be around tomorrow, but if there is no power when i get back from school then i guess i wont be back till monday ;) night all x

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 02:34

    Bernie should be finding ways to educate and hook these people rather than loose them when their favourite starts losing or retires.

    But instead he wants to take away their races.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 02:37

    Good night Lou

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 02:38

    But instead he wants to take away their races.

    Sums up his business brain. Go and find new markets without securing the existing ones.

  • Dan Brunell15/03/2009 at 09:05

    I think I found Steven Roy' nightmare scenario.

    LINK: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30263

  • Dan Brunell15/03/2009 at 09:24

    In response to the Digger video, I found a video of my own...

    LINK: http://www.racingeagles.com/2009/03/in-response.html

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 09:35

    What the hell have they done to the official Formula 1 website?

    http://www.formula1.com/

    What a lovely, er, red glow...

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 10:19

    Some more testing begins today with McLaren, Renault, Williams and Brawn all in attendance: http://directo.thef1.es/tests/

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 10:20

    It’s like all the people who thought Kimi’s performance dropped last year because of a problem in his head when it was a problem in his car.

    Hmm guess I fall into that category.

    I'm still not convinced that the problem was with his car though. I can't see how it could be, when Massa did so well in the same car. What I think may be the case is that the problem wasn't with the car as such but rather with his driving style, which didn't suit the car. How could Massa get heat into the tyres and he couldn't? This statement was always confused me.

    I should also add that I actually like Kimi but personally I was disappointed in his performance last year .. and DC's performance? .. don't even go there, he sucked.

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 10:21

    Some more testing begins today with McLaren, Renault, Williams and Brawn all in attendance: http://directo.thef1.es/tests/

    Thanks, Dan :D I thought it was tomorrow.

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 10:26

    Alonso has destroyed the front section of his Renault by crashing into a barrier.

    Be interesting to see if either Button or Barrichello can beat Vettel's time from a fortnight ago in Jerez 1m 19s something.

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 10:27

    Alonso has destroyed the front section of his Renault by crashing into a barrier.

    Anyone know how to translate Dan's link?

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 10:35

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/alonso-jpg

    *sniggers behind hand*

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 10:37

    Anyone know how to translate Dan’s link?

    Use this one

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 10:39

    Thanks Dan :D

  • Dank15/03/2009 at 10:40

    Oh the schedule for this week:

    Brawn GP and Renault for three days.

    McLaren for thee and a half days (!)

    Williams for five days.

  • Jackie15/03/2009 at 10:41

    Thanks Dan :D

    Oops, sorry Dank :D

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 11:34

    What the hell have they done to the official Formula 1 website?

    What a lovely, er, red glow…

    A Ferrari red, some might say... :)

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 12:26

    I though tv licences were cheaper for students?

    Either way, they will be simulcast online. {Comment #63}

    It's not so much that they're cheaper for students as it's more common for one person to have a licence and all his/her like-minded friends gather round the same set for favourite programmes.

    If you're really lucky, there may be a nearby pub that shows F1 (apparently there's a place called the Forum in Sheffield that does it, for instance), but that almost certainly won't help for practise sessions...

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 12:31

    but that almost certainly won’t help for practise sessions…

    Five Live and Live Timing it is then!!

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 12:33

    I have 5.1 million left on my Fantasy Racers.....do i buy Sutil and hope he finished all the laps and get 58 points + finishing position, or leave it and get 51 points because i have 5.1 million left....

    any thoughts?

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 12:36

    No as often as they used to, most people seem to have forgotten him by now.

    Amazingly, I still get the occasional bit of post for the person who lived in my flat before me, who was called Chris Tarrant. {Comment #87}

    Have you ever thought of contacting the previous tenant and doing a TV comedy spot? Two name-a-likes on one programme would be gold for the TV execs and yourselves...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 12:36

    I have 5.1 million left on my Fantasy Racers…..do i buy Sutil and hope he finished all the laps and get 58 points + finishing position, or leave it and get 51 points because i have 5.1 million left….

    any thoughts?

    Sutil and Fifi could be a real black horse this year.

    What the Honda - take a punt on him!

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 12:37

    What the Honda - take a punt on him!

    I'm betting on him finishing the face more than anything lol

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 12:40

    What the Honda - take a punt on him!

    I’m betting on him finishing the face more than anything lol

    If he finished last, but last is like, 13th, does he get points for gaining places if he started 20th?

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 12:42

    If he finished last, but last is like, 13th, does he get points for gaining places if he started 20th?

    Nope, just finishing position and laps completed

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 12:55

    And that reminds me, Villeneuve wouldn’t licence his name for the game so he was called ‘Vacation’! {Comment #189}

    He got called "Newhouse" in GP3, which I always found hilarious.

    My favourite GP3 bug was the one where the screen would go dark and the computer would reboot if I had a really bad crash in Monte Carlo, vaulted over the barrier and was about to hit a building. I suspect this is more realistic than the game designers intended...

    On the other hand, the Monza circuit was one where I had to be particularly careful. If I so much as lost a front wing (which I frequently do, and ignore because, like Button at Fuji 2007, I can't feel any difference whether it's there or not), then the game forces me to go down the pitlane unless I go into the gravel trap by the pitlane. I then have to remember to go halfway down the pit straight before rejoining it, otherwise I'll end up with my car embedded in the pit wall. It will not surprise you to hear that I've never done well in a Monza race on that game...

  • Dom15/03/2009 at 13:01

    Toyota came very close to pulling out:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73709

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:03

    Toyota came very close to pulling out:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73709

    Toyota and Renault will pull out at the end of the year :-(

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 13:09

    Toyota and Renault will pull out at the end of the year :-(

    where did ya get that from?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:12

    Toyota and Renault will pull out at the end of the year :-(

    where did ya get that from?

    Just my two cents.

    I base it on the fact that Renault have been threatening to pull out for ages as they have money troubles. The board will threaten Ghosn if they don't do well this year and his hand will be forced.

    Toyota will pull out at the end of the year if they don't win. $1 billion for nothing is a huge corporate embarrassment and not worth the trouble of continuing. They'll do it in the same way as Gonda too :-(

  • Jon Waldock15/03/2009 at 13:13

    Toyota will pull out at the end of the year if they don’t win. $1 billion for nothing is a huge corporate embarrassment and not worth the trouble of continuing. They’ll do it in the same way as Gonda too :-(

    Bernie will be pleased...

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 13:15

    Warning: May cause journalistic harm and severe pointless article syndrome. {Comment #343}

    Also may cause, in my computer's case, a lock-up of the browser. Apparently Firefox 3 is allergic to pointless stuff dressed up as journalism.

  • Christine15/03/2009 at 13:16

    I base it on the fact that Renault have been threatening to pull out for ages as they have money troubles. The board will threaten Ghosn if they don’t do well this year and his hand will be forced.

    But there's nothing to say they won't do well this year.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:19

    I base it on the fact that Renault have been threatening to pull out for ages as they have money troubles. The board will threaten Ghosn if they don’t do well this year and his hand will be forced.

    But there’s nothing to say they won’t do well this year.

    Wasn't it in 2005 or 2006 when there were stories of Renault withdrawing from the sport? Didn't Alonso join McLaren on the basis that Renault's future in the sport was uncertain? And that was at a time when they were dominant in the sport...

  • Christine15/03/2009 at 13:29

    Wasn’t it in 2005 or 2006 when there were stories of Renault withdrawing from the sport? Didn’t Alonso join McLaren on the basis that Renault’s future in the sport was uncertain? And that was at a time when they were dominant in the sport…

    But they didn't leave? Winning just one race a year is enough in terms of marketing.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:30

    Wasn’t it in 2005 or 2006 when there were stories of Renault withdrawing from the sport? Didn’t Alonso join McLaren on the basis that Renault’s future in the sport was uncertain? And that was at a time when they were dominant in the sport…

    But they didn’t leave? Winning just one race a year is enough in terms of marketing.

    Let's hope so. Just remember also that if Renault have no money, the economy gets worse and they have to make drastic cuts then it won't look good for them to stay in F1. The same goes for any of the car manufacturers as well.

  • me15/03/2009 at 13:33

    Let’s hope so. Just remember also that if Renault have no money, the economy gets worse and they have to make drastic cuts then it won’t look good for them to stay in F1. The same goes for any of the car manufacturers as well.

    renault just need piquet to crash at the right point in singapore, gift a win to alonso, and their future in the sport is pretty much guaranteed.

    why are we worrying about this today out of interest? not keeping up with the comments at all, but renault's line hasn't changed has it?

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:34

    Let’s hope so. Just remember also that if Renault have no money, the economy gets worse and they have to make drastic cuts then it won’t look good for them to stay in F1. The same goes for any of the car manufacturers as well.

    I think a lot of Renaults future depends on where Alonso is in 2010 or 2011.

  • Alex+Andronov15/03/2009 at 13:34

    why are we worrying about this today out of interest? not keeping up with the comments at all, but renault’s line hasn’t changed has it?

    Isn't it because Toyota admitted they were thinking about it?

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:35

    why are we worrying about this today out of interest? not keeping up with the comments at all, but renault’s line hasn’t changed has it?

    I think it came from Toyota saying they were on the verge of pulling out.

  • Alex+Andronov15/03/2009 at 13:35

    Isn’t it because Toyota admitted they were thinking about it?

    Although I'm not here ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:35

    why are we worrying about this today out of interest? not keeping up with the comments at all, but renault’s line hasn’t changed has it?

    Isn’t it because Toyota admitted they were thinking about it?

    Yeah, and I added that I thought that Renault are in the same boat...

  • me15/03/2009 at 13:35

    Isn’t it because Toyota admitted they were thinking about it?

    they're in the same same boat as renault aren't they. win one race and all is good?

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:37

    they’re in the same same boat as renault aren’t they. win one race and all is good?

    Is that really a sustainable or even desirable way of running a race team though?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:37

    Isn’t it because Toyota admitted they were thinking about it?

    they’re in the same same boat as renault aren’t they. win one race and all is good?

    The 'one win' will be that elusive first win - and even though they have been good enough before that didn't happen!

    Can you see Trulli or Glock winning this year? I'd take a wild punt on them, but I think that plenty of other teams will be better than Toyota...

  • me15/03/2009 at 13:38

    Is that really a sustainable or even desirable way of running a race team though?

    yup.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:38

    yup.

    That told me! :D

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 13:39

    They will probably decide that the championship has gone to Lewis’s head and he has inherited Kimi’s mental problems. {Comment #422}

    They'll also pick up Jenson as quickly as they dropped him when Lewis arrived on the scene and conveniently forget that they'd ever said a word against "our Jens".

  • me15/03/2009 at 13:40

    That told me! :D

    gimmie, 5mins, am doing something else.

    marketing is also ghosn cares about, and one win is all it takes.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:41

    They will probably decide that the championship has gone to Lewis’s head and he has inherited Kimi’s mental problems. {Comment #422}

    They’ll also pick up Jenson as quickly as they dropped him when Lewis arrived on the scene and conveniently forget that they’d ever said a word against “our Jens”.

    Easy enough with the fickle British press... Interestingly enough, I had a similar discussion with a couple of workmates the other day!

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:41

    marketing is also ghosn cares about, and one win is all it takes.

    True, but I just can't see anyone at Renault being satisfied with one or two wins when a few years ago they had back to back world championships.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 13:42

    marketing is also ghosn cares about, and one win is all it takes.

    True, but I just can’t see anyone at Renault being satisfied with one or two wins when a few years ago they had back to back world championships.

    Especially if the economy gets worse.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:44

    Especially if the economy gets worse.

    I guess, sadly, that's the big difference. McLaren and Ferrari can afford to be ambitious.

  • Christine15/03/2009 at 13:46

    True, but I just can’t see anyone at Renault being satisfied with one or two wins when a few years ago they had back to back world championships.

    You can't get the sort of marketing that a win in F1 will give you though. You can't get that anywhere else.

    And there's something to say that unexpected results can be just as satisfying as being consistently good. Their two wins last year will have got them loads of publicity, and they were nowhere near championship material.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:50

    And there’s something to say that unexpected results can be just as satisfying as being consistently good. Their two wins last year will have got them loads of publicity, and they were nowhere near championship material.

    That's not going to keep the likes of Alonso in their car though!

  • Christine15/03/2009 at 13:52

    That’s not going to keep the likes of Alonso in their car though!

    Also true, but he's not the only good driver out there.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 13:56

    Also true, but he’s not the only good driver out there.

    Far from it! As a driver it must be frustrating if your team only wants one win though. Imagine how Kubica felt last season when BMW effectively gave up on his title shot for him.

  • Christine15/03/2009 at 13:57

    Far from it! As a driver it must be frustrating if your team only wants one win though. Imagine how Kubica felt last season when BMW effectively gave up on his title shot for him.

    There's no way they only want one win. Every team out there wants to win the championship, otherwise they wouldn't bother. But to explain yourself to the board, you've just got to prove that even smaller results can be effective.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 14:05

    Every team out there wants to win the championship, otherwise they wouldn’t bother.

    I don't think that's necessarily true. I think some teams want to be in F1 for the marketing exposure or just to be in the sport for fun. For example Minardi, Force India, Jordan, Tyrrell, Toro Rosso, Super Aguri, maybe even Red Bull and Gonda could be in it for these reasons...

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 14:06

    There’s no way they only want one win. Every team out there wants to win the championship, otherwise they wouldn’t bother. But to explain yourself to the board, you’ve just got to prove that even smaller results can be effective.

    But the point is, they did not go 100% on their 2008 title bid - and if you're the guy who has a shot at that title, you'd feel frustrated. They were probably just 1 or 2 results away from really having a shot at that title. And given what happened in Brazil, it could've easily gone their way.

    If they don't win the title this year, Kubica will not be a happy boy for giving up on the 2008 title bid.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 14:06

    There’s no way they only want one win. Every team out there wants to win the championship, otherwise they wouldn’t bother. But to explain yourself to the board, you’ve just got to prove that even smaller results can be effective.

    Yeah, I guess I phrased that wrong really. BMW did more or less give up on last season after Canada though. They were still hoping for wins, but once they had their target of 'a win', they moved on to the 2009 car.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 14:07

    Yeah, I guess I phrased that wrong really. BMW did more or less give up on last season after Canada though. They were still hoping for wins, but once they had their target of ‘a win’, they moved on to the 2009 car.

    Fuji was the most frustrating. I felt that Kubica could have won that if they had developed the car properly.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 14:08

    If they don’t win the title this year, Kubica will not be a happy boy for giving up on the 2008 title bid.

    BMW have to win the title in 2009, otherwise two seasons will have gone to waste. If they had continued to develop the '08 car I honestly think we would have had a three way battle in Brazil. They said they were putting everything into the coming season, so anything other than the championship will be a a huge failure.

  • Alianora La Canta15/03/2009 at 14:15

    It’s like all the people who thought Kimi’s performance dropped last year because of a problem in his head when it was a problem in his car.

    Hmm guess I fall into that category. {Comment #432}

    It felt like a head/car interaction issue. There was nothing wrong with the car (as Massa showed), nor was there was nothing wrong with Kimi (as shown by his regular fast stints on option tyres). Yet when Kimi took prime tyres (and it wasn't a situation like Spa when high motivation conquered virtually everything else), it all seemed to fall apart. Somehow Kimi and a prime-tyred Ferrari never seemed to want the same things from each other. Any solution will presumably involve either or both of sorting out what Kimi does when he finds himself with a car not to his liking or modifying the Ferrari to fit within Kimi's performance window (which, on current evidence, should include giving him latitude to pick tyre strategies radically different to Felipe's).

    Given how often in the past this has happened to other drivers in the past, I wouldn't particularly hold the problem against him, but it shows he does have vulnerabilities. Other drivers will now be on the lookout to see if they can take advantage in future, which means the more Kimi finds these problems, the bigger the negative effect will be on his racing, even if the problem itself doesn't really change.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 14:19

    It’s like all the people who thought Kimi’s performance dropped last year because of a problem in his head when it was a problem in his car.

    Hmm guess I fall into that category. {Comment #432}

    It felt like a head/car interaction issue. There was nothing wrong with the car (as Massa showed), nor was there was nothing wrong with Kimi (as shown by his regular fast stints on option tyres). Yet when Kimi took prime tyres (and it wasn’t a situation like Spa when high motivation conquered virtually everything else), it all seemed to fall apart. Somehow Kimi and a prime-tyred Ferrari never seemed to want the same things from each other. Any solution will presumably involve either or both of sorting out what Kimi does when he finds himself with a car not to his liking or modifying the Ferrari to fit within Kimi’s performance window (which, on current evidence, should include giving him latitude to pick tyre strategies radically different to Felipe’s).

    Given how often in the past this has happened to other drivers in the past, I wouldn’t particularly hold the problem against him, but it shows he does have vulnerabilities. Other drivers will now be on the lookout to see if they can take advantage in future, which means the more Kimi finds these problems, the bigger the negative effect will be on his racing, even if the problem itself doesn’t really change.

    For me, the question of car or driver is academic. A driver of his caliber who is paid that much should be able to drive around the problems. To me, that is the difference between a good driver and a champion!

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 14:59

    I think I found Steven Roy’ nightmare scenario.

    The trouble is it would be round 12 of the NASACAR championship before the shuttle was ready to start a race.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 15:00

    I think I found Steven Roy’ nightmare scenario.

    The trouble is it would be round 12 of the NASACAR championship before the shuttle was ready to start a race.

    Do NASA cancel a launch if it rains like NASCAR do a race?

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:03

    I have 5.1 million left on my Fantasy Racers…..do i buy Sutil and hope he finished all the laps and get 58 points + finishing position, or leave it and get 51 points because i have 5.1 million left….

    The plus side of the deal is +7 points the negative side is -51. Don't buy him

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/03/2009 at 15:05

    The plus side of the deal is +7 points the negative side is -51. Don’t buy him

    Also you're gambling 51 points versus a potential 58 points. That's a bit of a 'six-pointer'!

    It's very unlikely he'll finish all the laps of all the races so it's a very big gamble. I would play it safe myself.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:05

    Toyota and Renault will pull out at the end of the year

    For me Renault will definitely go at the end of the season. Toyota may go as well.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:06

    Wasn’t it in 2005 or 2006 when there were stories of Renault withdrawing from the sport? Didn’t Alonso join McLaren on the basis that Renault’s future in the sport was uncertain? And that was at a time when they were dominant in the sport…

    Renault didn't commit to 2007 until something like 6 months after Alonso signed for McLaren.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:10

    renault just need piquet to crash at the right point in singapore, gift a win to alonso, and their future in the sport is pretty much guaranteed.

    They pulled out as an engine supplier when they were racking up championships because the management thought it was wrong to be making people redundant when they were spending money on F1. It doesn't matter to car companies if they are winning or losing just now they would rather use the money on keeping people employed so that they don't have to recruit as the market turns. It also lets them carry out some upgrades just now when their plants are stopped.

    Also the French government have just given Renault 3 billion Euro.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:16

    Yeah, I guess I phrased that wrong really. BMW did more or less give up on last season after Canada though. They were still hoping for wins, but once they had their target of ‘a win’, they moved on to the 2009 car.

    I thnk BMW made the riht call. At no point in the season were they competitive with McLaren or Ferrari on pace. Even if they had committed 100% to 2008 they would still never have been as fast as those cars so all they would be doing is gambling on McLaren and Ferrari making more mistakes than themselves and putting themselves behind the 8 ball for 2009 when they had the same chance as any other top team to come up with a competitive car. Kubica needs to grow up and understand what is happening outside the car.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 15:18

    I thnk BMW made the riht call. At no point in the season were they competitive with McLaren or Ferrari on pace. Even if they had committed 100% to 2008 they would still never have been as fast as those cars so all they would be doing is gambling on McLaren and Ferrari making more mistakes than themselves and putting themselves behind the 8 ball for 2009 when they had the same chance as any other top team to come up with a competitive car. Kubica needs to grow up and understand what is happening outside the car.

    But that's the thing: in spite of the fact that they didn't work on the 08 car, Kubica was right in contention until China. Had he had 1 or 2 more good results, he would've been right in the mix in Brazil. What more if they actually worked on the 08 car more? How many more points would he have been able to score?

    Again, they MUST win the title this year - or else they may lose Kubica to greener pastures.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:18

    For me, the question of car or driver is academic. A driver of his caliber who is paid that much should be able to drive around the problems. To me, that is the difference between a good driver and a champion!

    Surely the difference between a good team and a bad team is a good team should be able to give their drivers a car they can drive. Kimi cannot cope with and understeering car and Alonso can't cope with an oversteering car and that is always going to be the case. There are very few drivers in history who could drive both equally effectively.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 15:20

    I thnk BMW made the riht call. At no point in the season were they competitive with McLaren or Ferrari on pace. Even if they had committed 100% to 2008 they would still never have been as fast as those cars so all they would be doing is gambling on McLaren and Ferrari making more mistakes than themselves and putting themselves behind the 8 ball for 2009 when they had the same chance as any other top team to come up with a competitive car. Kubica needs to grow up and understand what is happening outside the car.

    But with the read and silver cars punting each other off the track left right and centre he could have picked up some decent results to keep himself in contention. Consistency alone could have won him the title, even if he only won one or two races.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:21

    Do NASA cancel a launch if it rains like NASCAR do a race?

    Tonight's launch is 80% likely to happen due to potential low cloud at the launch site. Generally they cancel due to visibility or lightning but not just rain. They also have potential problems at one of the three European abort sites but will still fly if two are available. They would probably still go if only one was clear.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:24

    Again, they MUST win the title this year - or else they may lose Kubica to greener pastures.

    I can't see where he can go at the end of this season. He was very unlikely to win the championship last season even if the full weight of BMW had been behind him. Apart from anything else we have no idea how he is going to cope when he has the pressure that Lewis and Felipe lived with last season. It's very easy to look good and drive naturally when no-one expects results. Once results are expected everyone will stop telling him how good he is and hammer him for every mistake.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:25

    But with the read and silver cars punting each other off the track left right and centre he could have picked up some decent results to keep himself in contention. Consistency alone could have won him the title, even if he only won one or two races.

    Yes but would you gamble 2009 on could have/maybe got lucky?

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 15:26

    Yes but would you gamble 2009 on could have/maybe got lucky?

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 15:27

    I can’t see where he can go at the end of this season. He was very unlikely to win the championship last season even if the full weight of BMW had been behind him. Apart from anything else we have no idea how he is going to cope when he has the pressure that Lewis and Felipe lived with last season. It’s very easy to look good and drive naturally when no-one expects results. Once results are expected everyone will stop telling him how good he is and hammer him for every mistake.

    I think there already were expectations on him for 2008, to do well. Not on a title-winning level, true, but he had to do some winning.

    Where can he end up? He looks like a good fit with the Ferrari setup - not to mention he speaks fluent Italian.

  • Alex+Andronov15/03/2009 at 15:27

    I can’t see where he can go at the end of this season. He was very unlikely to win the championship last season even if the full weight of BMW had been behind him. Apart from anything else we have no idea how he is going to cope when he has the pressure that Lewis and Felipe lived with last season. It’s very easy to look good and drive naturally when no-one expects results. Once results are expected everyone will stop telling him how good he is and hammer him for every mistake.

    Kers may also be a factor for him as well. If it does become a factor for drivers he was one of the heaviest drivers last year. I believe that although BMW will be probably the only team to run KERS in Oz don't we also think that they will only be running it in Nick's car.

    If it does start providing an advantage then it will be difficult for Kubica.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:34

    Where can he end up? He looks like a good fit with the Ferrari setup - not to mention he speaks fluent Italian.

    Kimi is signed for 2010. I can't remember if Felipe is but he and Kubica have similar driving styles so they should make a better pair unless Ferrari start making oversteering cars.

    And of course assuming Alonso doesn't have a Ferrari contract. I posted a comment at the end of last season which highlighted 5 or 6 drivers who were supposedly going to drive for Ferrari in the next year or two.

    Ferrari only have two seats and Kubica is not going to get one of them.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 15:38

    Ferrari only have two seats and Kubica is not going to get one of them.

    I'd like to see him replace Kovi at McLaren but I don't think he's the kind of driver they would go for somehow.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 15:40

    Kimi is signed for 2010. I can’t remember if Felipe is but he and Kubica have similar driving styles so they should make a better pair unless Ferrari start making oversteering cars.

    Rubens was signed for Ferrari for 2005 - but he left a year early anyway.

    Does Alonso have a Ferrari contract? I'm starting to doubt it again. If he did, they probably would've announced it by now, much in the same way he and McLaren did in 2006.

    Don't be surprised if Kubica goes to Maranello anyway. And here's my fearless forecast: Ferrari 2011 will be Kubica and Vettel.

  • chris evans15/03/2009 at 15:42

    Does Alonso have a Ferrari contract? I’m starting to doubt it again. If he did, they probably would’ve announced it by now, much in the same way he and McLaren did in 2006.

    I'm pretty sure McLaren had a seat free at that point anyway. The last thing Ferrari want to do is unsettle Kimi and Massa.

    Don’t be surprised if Kubica goes to Maranello anyway. And here’s my fearless forecast: Ferrari 2011 will be Kubica and Vettel.

    Would love to see that. I reckon Vettel is a cert for Ferrari eventually though.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 15:44

    Would love to see that. I reckon Vettel is a cert for Ferrari eventually though.

    Agreed. ;) Especially if Michael will still be their consultant by then.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:47

    I’d like to see him replace Kovi at McLaren but I don’t think he’s the kind of driver they would go for somehow.

    Interesting thought but I still believe Paul di Resta will eventually replace Kovi.

  • Journeyer15/03/2009 at 15:48

    Interesting thought but I still believe Paul di Resta will eventually replace Kovi.

    I really think di Resta's chances of getting into F1 are dropping by the day. At this rate, they might get someone else to replace Kovi - if at all.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:49

    Don’t be surprised if Kubica goes to Maranello anyway. And here’s my fearless forecast: Ferrari 2011 will be Kubica and Vettel.

    Great forecast. I forgot about Vettel as someone else at the end of last season who was supposed to have a Ferrari future.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:51

    I really think di Resta’s chances of getting into F1 are dropping by the day. At this rate, they might get someone else to replace Kovi - if at all.

    It is becoming a kind of McNish scenario again. Everyone knows he can do the job. Everyone knows he is going to have a big future but at some point someone has to put him in a car.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 15:55

    It looks like NASA have got past the stage that caused the previous launch to be aborted. Assuming they have stuck to their own schdule in the last three hours they should hae put half a million gallons of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen into the external fuel tank. It was during the fill operation that they discovered the hydrogen vent leak previously.

    T- 7 hours 48 minutes and counting.

  • Steven Roy15/03/2009 at 16:32

    It looks like NASA have got past the stage that caused the previous launch to be aborted. Assuming they have stuck to their own schdule in the last three hours they should hae put half a million gallons of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen into the external fuel tank. It was during the fill operation that they discovered the hydrogen vent leak previously.

    NASA are not sticking to their schedule. They are now reporting that the external fuel tank was 50% full as of half an hour ago. This won't affect the launch time.