The rumour mill has been burning the candle at both ends, Jonny Ive has been trimming his stubble to the exact length and the Craig Federighi nickname wheel has been spun. Yes, it's time for another Apple Keynote. Expected today are the details of a new iPhone, probably two. The successor to the iPhone 5 and a lower cost, colourful model that most are calling the 5C. Also, iOS 7 should be released to the public which has polarised opinion with it's fresh look. Join us in the run up to Tim Cook taking the stage at 6pm [BST] and share your expectations, wish lists, live blog links and more
Apple iPhone and iOS keynote
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looking in vain for live stream details. hope we're not back to following live blogs for this one.
hoping to get home for 5pm so I'll be all settled down. My iPod died during my broken arm time annoyingly but on the plus side now I can look forward to new iOS, woop
yay! am hoping that amongst all the updates we get a new ipod touch that lies flat when you put it down.
doesn't the new one do that?
Don't get him started
My phone is out of contract soon so interested to see what's announced today
uh oh, I didn't say nothin'!
the camera lens sticks out on the right hand side. it's been driving me nuts for a year. either they move the camera to the middle of the device or lose the bevel.
it's the first apple product i've truly disliked since the magic mouse.
Ahhh, I see what you mean. I have mine in a case so I don't notice it.
other things i'd like to see today.
- airport express to support 802.11ac
- a date for the release of mavericks
- estimated date for mac pro
- updated haswell mac mini
but i don't think any of those are really likely.
i'd put mine in a case, but i never go anywhere it might get scratched.
What are the chances of a new iPad Mini? Mum really wants one and family are looking at getting one for Christmas but I'm hoping some of the older models become cheaper if necessary
i think basically zero. rumors a while back suggested a cheaper mini would be released early 2014. others say that october is the date for ipad updates. there will be something in time for xmas for certain.
one more thing.
- textbooks for iphone/ipod
I thought that might be the case, they have a small netbook but she's doing the mum thing of unsubtlely going 'ooooooooh ISN'T THAT IPAD NICE, IT LOOKS EASY TO USE' and so forth :)
well she's right :)
ipad mini is the first ipad i've actually liked. the first one that wasn't handed to christine within a week of purchase.
We would happily get one myself as a present but a lot of family stuff this year and stuff going toward's my brother's new house means money is a bit scarce. Damn expensive everything.
(plus I want to play about with it myself. ahem)
reading back through the last keynote, i don't reckon this one will come close to how excited i was in june.
I just hope we get a stream
Are Android users allowed here? ;-)
I promise to be mostly silent, just want to see it from the other side.
i love android, so long as i don't have to develop anything for it. google's tools make me cry.
one thing to look out for today, is whether apple have any answer to the chromecast, which looks like a brilliant tv accessory (and i want one).
Me and my HTC One X says we're cool ;)
didn't know you had one. how are the comments on it?
Always worked fine for me. I prefer the dashboard setup though. Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (2013)
interesting. dashboard on a phone is the one place we can't get comments right. the window-within-a-window problem makes scrolling such a pain, we've had to give up on it for a bit.
I'm sure I shared photos of it when I first got it in October, silly mr c :)
i don't remember you had one :)
Summary: sidepodcast still looks awesome :)
Yeah, the introduction and comments scroll independently from the rest of the page but it's ok if you're touching in the right space.
The live commenting in a single post works beautifully I should add!
drives me potty.
originally it just to be that two fingers scrolled the inner window, which worked wonderfully. since it changed, we've not found a nice solution.
Heheh, I think it's fine, if you want to scroll the window then touch the window, if not then touch the main page. Seems logical to me. Gestures are fine when you remember them but utterly useless to most people. It's like the links, I'd prefer them to open in another window (without right click etc.) but I remember you saying lots of people didn't understand why it hadn't worked so you had them open in the current window (something I stole for a small blog I occasionally do).
I'm fairly sure I read somewhere iOS7 would be rumoured to be available tonight, what do we reckon? I assumed it'd be available once the new iPhones were out
last year, i was complaining there wasn't anything to download post keynote: http://sidepodcast.com/event/apple-iphone-5-keynote-next-generation-device-launch#comment-3074703
doesn't mean they'll do that again though. i'd like IOS7 today.
i like it when stuff becomes available immediatedly following conferences :)
some useful links:
christine isn't factbyte factboxing this one btw. too much studying :(
oohhh am i too late?!?
nah, not started yet. 6pm (ish).
ah good, i had a bit of a panic. excited for today, love a good apple keynote :) I want IOS7 pls :)
Did anyone find a stream? Even just audio?
Looks like there's not one
Just in now, will make a coffee and a snack and think about my predictions
wOOt got 3 App updates on my Windows 8 Nokia phone! #appydays
watching twit on our tv, they might have some audio.
thought i'd do some gorilla marketing! good job theres no stream... I think Mr C would describe my tech setup as fragmented anyway.. I have MBP, Nexus 7 and most recent WIN8 Nokia Phone (which is more good than it sounds!)
so what is expected a new iPhone Lite version isnt it ?
Would it be funny if the only stream was on a site that requires Flash?
So, my thoughts and educated guesses are as follows
iPhone: 2 models, 5S in 3 or 4 colours, possibly up to 128GB. 5C with limited features
iPods: No new hardware, Classic my be axed
iOS: Released today, iPhones and iPods only
iPads: Nothing until Oct
Macs: No new hardware
Apple TV: Minor refresh with 802.11AC & maybe new software & features
Agreed, expectations are low and why Cupertino Town Hall is the venue
I am with Bassano. Think that's a fair bet on what to expect. But I live in hope that something special is pulled out of bag. Looking forward to it. Got an Apple TV box last month. Very pleased with it. Would love more Apps with it.
People [fools] have been queueing for 5 days already in line for the iPhone release
Not expected to be on sale until the 20th
they are sites that still require flash?
Restaurants with web managers who don't own smart devices
sadly so if work is anything to go by.
that'd be good.
The doors are open, people filing in.
It's already beating the Surface event :)
am addicted to vevo.
I Air Play Tune In Radio content
Did you guys see netflix is coming to virgin's tivo box? Interesting to see it finally being picked up by a major tv provider in one of their boxes.
as far as I know they're the only provider to pick it up too so quite the coup. I'm surprised they have, in all honesty, but very good news
Do you ever. Vevo is the reason when I restart my browser I have random things open in tabs. Like Eddie Murphy's discography.
Is Leo late? :)
who are the two guys on the show? only recognise sarah.
Scott Bourne is supposed to be there but that be just for MBW. Maybe Leo's picking him up at the airport
will jony take to the stage today. he basically reinvented ios, time he said some words?
He never does. There'll be a Jonny video
misread that as time he reinvented words.
...wouldn't put it past him
next on the list.
In Helvetica Neue
cook approves of timberlake and katy perry :)
20 million people applied for iTunes Festival tickets!
it's free on the telly!
crazy mad peeps.
Being there is sometimes better [difficult to believe, I know]
We streamed the iTunes Festival in 100 countries.
But not this Keynote
nice that itunes festival gets a keynote shout out. chuffed.
But I'd just be recording it on my phone Is. .
yep. I have check and can confirm this
I do wish Tim Cook didn't have to look like the Demon Headmaster though
iOS7 is very pretty
Hehe, texts complimenting his hair. It is good hair.
christine just blew up the microwave. queen of brilliant timing...
what did i miss
Siri does sound more natural
Someone texted Craig's hair
Yahoo's Marissa Meyer is there
"iOS 7 will quickly become the world's most popular operating system."
surely it's nowhere near windows?
Tim, I love you. I used the word ‘love’. But come on. Until you say “new iPhone”, you’re basically an FBI copyright warning.
They said popular, not most installed ;)
"Now to talk about our next product, the iCrowave"
glad they're not dwelling on ios7.
liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group
iOS Sep 18th :(
presumably developer gold master today then?
But including iPad :)
but grand theft auto 5 is out before then, I won't have any time to download iOS
8 whole days?! :(
that's very good news. please no fragmentation.
*looks at his htc*
i don't know what you mean ;)
It was introduced in June, so...
oh i know, i wanted it today. Am being impatient.. not making fun. I want it today too.
we're gonna need a new version of xcode today. still can't submit ios7 updates. i guess the extra week gives developers times to release updates.
"Will ship the 700th million iOS device next month."
It is odd not to release on Keynote day though
same as last year. must be the new thing.
iwork is now built into ios7?
ahh no, just free downloads.
pretty big deal though.
Web interface, still paid apps though, no?
no, free apps.
With a new iOS device, apparently
iPhone redesign time
Two new designs?
"here's the iPhone 5C, and here's one with a toaster"
"In the past, when we introduced a new iPhone, we lowered the price of the old iphone."
"This year, we're not going to do that."
The C stands for Cooooooool.
i need an ipod in those colours.
aw they're pretty....
not a fan of those cases.
Weird cutouts on the case
mr blobby cases
MASSIVE speaker? :)
iphone cheese grater :)
iPhone 5 specs essentially
All with black fronts
really like the green one. caterham iphone.
$199 for 32GB
No free iPhone with contract now
hope it's faster
actually, that's with a contract. no wow.
"Environmentally friendly and and Android free."
Background colours match the phone
do we assume if the C isn't cheap, the other iphone is even more expensive?
Meanwhile, Forstall is sitting alone in a bar, drinking.
“Look at this beautiful wood texture”, he says, awkwardly caressing the bar top
:) :) :)
I thought it was C for colour, C for cheap.
case looks like a calculator.
I really dislike those cases
It's cheaper than the current model. Same as last year's 4 & 4S prices
they look cheap in that video.
I kinda like the cases, it's a cool idea, you could do lots of cool cut through designs,
5S looks weird. as a brand.
It doesn't look apple. I'm very confused by them.
*looks at HTC again*
nyyeehh, could be worse
GOLD phone. oh goodness. yuck!
ok so those iphone 5c's now look amazing
Champaaaaaaaaagne! The Bob Constanduros iPhone
goldfinger (sensor): http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/13915/LB_8179.jpg
the gold is just... no.
"new space gray"
Think I preferred Salte
massive home button
I too can make up colours
Crashed Ice White
Maldonado Madness Mauve
wowsers. that is unreal.
yessh that's a powerful phone
64bit on the mobile is an almighty change. ever app will need to be recompiled (eventually).
1 billion transistors in the A7
need 64bit ipads now (or really soon).
all apple's apps are 64bit already.
so do old 32bit apps run in emulation? they'd be so slow.
one would assume apple have come prepared for such eventualities
Graphics are 56x faster
gonna be a hell of a year!
They're talking Infinity Blade, I thought they shelved that
infinity blade is now even more infiniter
Than the first?
56 times more infinite!
ahhh few. so 40x faster than the 5? that's still almighty.
The silver ring around the home button is there. Supposed to be a biometric sensor identifier
OpenGL is still kicking it strong
OpenGL ES 3.0 means they can add "Lens flares that would make J.J. Abrams proud."
no one can add as much flare as star trek did
how can nintendo/sony compete with this kind of GPU increase?
Justifying a handheld single function unit is hard
A new part, the M7. It works alongside the A7. It's a "motion co-processor."
especially when it's underpowered.
Monitors without waking the phone
nintendo are stuck in 1956 so they won't even realise
Sony... we'll see
coupled with bluetooth 4. massive!
10 hours browsing!
Ehh, my 3DS may not match the iphone/ipad etc but I still love it and what it does.
Ninty doesn't seem to like the future though sadly. Plus animal crossing is only on a 3DS so they have me trapped anyways ;)
was thinking more of the 2ds. iphone doesn't have an answer to 3d.
Ohh, I have no idea what's up with the 3ds that's just weird
2ds is for kids.
ahh, am far removed from that market segment :)
2.2 aperture is good
3d isn't suitable for under 7s and they got rid of the hinge to make it more durable.
Dual flash rumour was true. One white, one warmer
The new flash has two LEDs. One is cool and white, the other is warm and amber.
Hey there, have been keeping tabs from the street.
Will 64-bit processor help battery life?
burst mode too.
not sure, it'll make animations smoother certainly. so the physics engine will feel more natural.
Slo-Mo is coming as well. The icon shows it can do 120FPS.
i may have to drop the ipod touch for this...
what a camera.
Must sit opposite Wall Of Champions in Montreal :)
What's cumbersome about a passcode?
Touche, Bassano. Toucheeee.
And I'm sober. See how hard it is :)
The detection ring of steel!
I see I'm not the only person who is more precise tipsy... :D
Although... argh at the biometric softening!!
there goes the tactile glove market
ah that is cool. and will stop people getting into your phone when they know your passcode. That happens way too much for my liking.
fingerprint itunes purchases!
It's optional, not compulsory
thank god for that
i can buy stuff on christine's account while she's sleeping...
(cackle) She'll start sleeping in gloves!!
Stored locally, not in iCloud
I'd only by a case if it was super-thin like my Incipio
ipod classic lives then.
4S is staying?
30 pin sticks around for another year
Pre-order this weekend
YAY! (looks at her iphone 4s) :)
I'll have to wait until after my holiday before ordering mine
Being lazy here but has anyone seen UK pricing?
US prices are the same as last year, expect no different
Never had one, £99 on a top level contract?
Probably get a 64GB for that
blimey! you could get some nice GP tickets with that sort of money!
I hate that everything is expensive..
Oh quite. As things stand I'd replace this one with another if it died... New phone looks better, but I'm still left feeling that its too big...
Contract prices are much lower
which last 3 days? iphone lasts several years.
It's really not and a lot lighter
All done bar the singing
nothing for the ipod. this year is the one i upgrade to phone then.
To add to which, I've about to dump my contract as I'm been fed up paying for a ton of stuff I don't use, and still having to buy more data. Rather have very occasional calls to pay for and lots of data for less money. But I'm odd that way...
hehe i know it's a better long term investment, i'm all about experiences and going away at the moment :D
Deliberate lowercase? ;-)
ahh... you'll be needing an iphone camera to capture all of that then ;) ;)
i need that 64bit a7 in my life, so iphone all the way.
an iphone camera?!?!?!?! ahahahahahaaaaa! nope. try a beautiful Nikon D800 ;)
Nexus 4, one plan rolling 12 month contract.
and yes i'm aware the new iphone has an awesome camera, but i want a d800 more :)
i think the 5s just killed my need for a micro 4/3rds. will have to see how it pans out.
Micro 4/3 for us non-pros :)
ahhhhh yes totally, i think the iphone 5s just killed most people's need to buy compacts and alot of the micro 4/3rds market. looks very very impressive. I want to try it out.. gotta visit an apple shop soon :)
gah! no way!. I'm planning on an ipadmini 3G as the next thing I spring for, so any phone would be what I have or very basic in that case.
Think October iPad & Mac event a certainty now. They held a lot back
nothing i really wanted was announced today. bugger.
but you did get new shiny and new colourful iphones. what more could you want?! ;)
hehe. i wanted the green one until the A7 was announced.
64GB iP5 trade in price only dropped £20 since yesterday
hehe so what you really want is a nice green version of the shiny iphone? well if they do gold, they'll do green soon enough ;)
N4 8 is £159!!! Off contract.
One Plan, unlimited data including tethering is £15 per month.
Space Grey is the new black :)
i'll check out space grey.
but it doesn't play any of our content. no movies, no tv shows, no apps.
it's impossible to switch ecosystems.
No NFC or wireless purchase tie ups
no apple tv mention either.
Plus I don't like it. It just makes me... it doesn't sit nicely in the hand and things like that (which is another problem I have with the 5... being synesthetic really is a pita sometimes) But the data plan I've found is a similar cost :-)
£529 - £159 is a lot of content..
I agree it's difficult but it's doable.
Pure iPhone event
iPhone 5C with case
it's not. android doesn't sync to mac desktops. what would we change our desktops too? you can't podcast from a chromebook pixel, it's just a web browser.
the whole ecosystem. from television, to desktop, to tablet, to phone. android doesn't come close to covering a fraction of that.
windows mobile actually comes a bit closer thanks to windows 8, but really, it's apple all the way. the cost of a phone is irrelevant.
All in has maximum benefits but each if the devices is great as standalone
Fair play, as I said earlier, Android man here.
christine has an kindle fire, that's as close as we get :)
I did the Android thing, it didn't work out for me.
I lasted about 3 months with a Nexus 7
it's useful for testing sidepodcast code. i don't think it gets turned on for anything else.
that case is bloody awful.
Find the blue phone page and slowly scroll up and down. See what happens
And the green
I liked it up to the point things stopped working for no reason, with no warning, and with no way of fixing!
I did that exact same thing in July.
No 802.11AC compatibility
what the? beamforming takes too much battery>
Bigger antenna? Thinking of the tall Airport Base Station
Mr C, did you see the html5 goodness?
not sure what i'm looking for?
The two phones move in relation to each other as you scroll past
ahh i see. not good on the ipad, but desktop it's nice.
Trying to get confirmation of Vodafone UK 4G bands
Slightly off topic but Olympus announced the OM-D E-M1 earlier today
cheers for the comments y'all.
@MarkGallagher62 2 mins
New Apple iPhone 5S uses single-fingerprint security. Should suit this guy http://pic.twitter.com/lCWQraXOH6