The invite proclaims: "It's almost here" and depicts a shadow of the number 5 that many assume will be for the announcement of the iPhone 5. But the next iPhone, which is almost certain to be revealed today, will actually be the sixth generation of the ubiquitous thumb magnet. It's Apple Keynote time! What do you think we'll see? 4G support, a taller screen, a 30 pin dock connector and iOS 6? Join us in the comments to tell us of the craziest speculation you've seen or which blog you're following.
Apple iPhone Keynote
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the fbfb is standing by - http://factbytefactbox.com/live
today, dashboard is your friend - http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard
*looks around* ..... meh...
*will probably watch anyway*
the only thing i might be vaguely interested in today will be the potential of an iPad mini...
Mr C... whats your opinion on the Fire HD vs the Nexus 7 ?? seeing as you are a tech guru...
still looking into it. i think amazon understand consumers better than google and have more content. the kindle is basically the same specs as the nexus but cheaper. so win/win for kindle. however, it's not out until october (probably later given demand) and the nexus is arriving now.
think ultimately the kindle is the better, long term bet.
today's announcements notwithstanding that is. if apple release a 7" ipad for £200 - £250, forget either the nexus or kindle even exist.
Yup, thats my thinking, also, apparently there will be a Nexus 7 w/ 3G connectivity annouced soon ??
you missed the bit about apple patents and your gate "already having slide to unlock". also apple "didn't invent aluminium or glass, btw" ;)
i still favour a separate 3g mifi. it's better for that to drain it's own battery and leave the connected device(s) with power. it's one more bit of kit, but it works better for me.
Cool, thanks for the update, I should also expect a letter in the post soon.. i think I wrote the word "A**le" on a public forum the other day in relation to fruit... waiting for the takedown notice..
anyway.. maybe back laters...
- iphone 5 and ios 6 (sorta goes without saying)
- updated ipod touch, finally with a decent camera
- 16:9 widescreen displays on both
would love to see a 7" ipad too. probably not yet though.
Ihnatko on Fire HD: http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/15094422-452/kindle-fire-hd-an-easy-to-handle-device-of-its-own-kind.html
TechRadar on the pair: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/amazon-kindle-fire-hd-vs-google-nexus-7-1095447
as a nexus owner, would it have been better to wait, or is it the right device? kindle price is really competitive.
From the little I've read, the Kindle Fire is great if you use Amazon and it's content a lot. Personally, I think the Nexus still edges it but I miss the integration of iOS which is why I would trade it.
Nexus - still best Android 7" and the price is good
worth knowing. we need a/some cheap tablet devices multiple f1 streams. either of these look to fit the bill.
Not sure what the Amazon "skin" looks like but bare JB 4.1 might be better for you to tweak with
Had mine since July
heard of four people getting there's yesterday, wonder if shipping was delayed or something. heck of a coincidence otherwise.
Just found out Fire HD is ICS - what's the point in that?
Be interesting if Google release update for Nexus to 4.2 or if they leave that stuff to Asus
yup. eligp, badgergp a couple of others.
kindle is android 4.0, nexus is android 4.1. is there a big difference then?
There's been a fair bit of billboard advertising. I ordered mine a couple of days after the media launch event and received when I got back from Germany
I'm an Android noob so couldn't say, just that folk say it's better
Interesting from Tech Radar: In our hands-on Kindle Fire HD review we found that the Kindle Fire HD was a little bit stuttery, which we hope is due to poorly optimised software rather than an underpowered processor. If it's the former Amazon can fix it before the Kindle Fire HD ships.
Fire HD wins on storage, price and camera
Nexus wins on latest OS, speed/graphics, lack of Amazon commercialism, and it comes with a proper charger [presume Fire is USB only out of the box]
for what i need, kindle seems to be the one. i trust amazon's app store a little more than the play store.
Are you thinking of soon if there's no Jr or iPad Air today?
my plans, i think are as follows:
- if new ipod touch, buy
- if not new ipod touch, buy iphone 5
- if not new ipad jnr, order kindle fire
- if new ipad jnr, debate price/value against kindle fire
9to5 Mac say iTunes 11 to be announced soon but just 10.7 today http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/12/itunes-11-to-be-released-today-as-well/
Multiple sites saying LTE will happen [wonder if it'll be 1800MHz and work in UK?]
doesn't ipad already have it, or am i making that up?
If iPad Jr, ask Bassano how much he's selling Nexus for :)
interesting branch. i really don't do second hand though. unboxing ftw :)
Sued in Australia and threatened in UK
http://www.apple.com/uk/ipad/specs/ now says WiFi plus cellular, used to be WiFi + 4G
Oh, you'd hate the Nexus unboxing. The videos are quite funny, quite a tough nut to crack.
Personally, I always have a penknife on hand to gain access but maybe that's the engineer in me
ooooh, that's the nexus! got ya.
:) :) :)
what are yer predictions mr. b. we'll give points out later.
iPhone 5 - taller, 4" with LTE
iPods across the range except Classic
New iTunes update
Lots of graphs, pie charts and self backslapping
Johnny Ive being very earnest in a video with some cooling manufacturing footage
I'm gonna say a refreshed iMac but no MacBook Pro 13"
Yup but strong chance it'll be Oct/Nov
Way overdue and current 27" is in very short supply apparently
they're in danger of passing the all the pro machine's in terms of performance...
Tim Cook said in June/July to wait until 2013 for Mac Pro, in an email. Very Steve but way more open
And NFC but maybe an Apple version of it
Can't put this in an iMac though
well... actually - http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/10/2698168/msi-GUS-II-external-thunderbolt-gpu-enclosure
Is it usable though or will Apple have to allow Mountain Lion to support external graphics?
you can't use it to view/put stuff on screen, no. but that's not what they're used for in a pro machine, they're massive number crunchers. after effects can see and use it, which is all ya need.
it's not a gaming solution though.
Of course. But can you hook it up to an MBP or iMac for Video or Photo processing?
Otherwise, it's still a Mac Pro or high end PC
The pro option, that is
yup. via thunderbolt.
Cool. So Mac Pro is better for packaging but Thunderbolt allows add-on component upgrades
indeed. although next-gen TB will mean you can put the hardware in a whole other room / building. at that point the pro becomes completely pointless (and apple know it).
If Apple & Nvidia release the drivers for it
no. it works. right now, out of the box.
Proper Light Peak
"Since there currently aren't any drivers that support the case, MSI tricked Windows in the demo to make the OS think that the GPU was connected over PCI Express. The enclosure will work with any new Windows PCs with Thunderbolt,"
here's an (old) demo of the first working version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koE5r0Kg1Rc
yep. fibre baby!
works fine on a mac though ;)
With a hack, it seems.
It's a start though
certainly, for the moment.
Assumed comparision of iPad, Jr & iPhone cases [mock-up]
I'm also going to have to by a whole heap of docks and adaptors for the new [9 pin?] connector
When is the kick off?
I have to peel some potatoes?
22 minutes and counting
Hey everyone :)
Is that a question? Is potato peeling in doubt? Is that a 'Mum, do I have to?' tone?
Ooooh fbfbinf goodness.
I hope we have all backed up our iDevices. iOS 6 could be later today
sync all app updates now, while you still can!
What... all of 'em? You should have mentioned this before!!
Today in work I made a very good samsung/apple joke, but as I have forgot it now I thought I would tell you it was funny so you can chortle nevertheless
i think twit died already!
No, Sarah Lane is on. Tech News Today
I have opened a kopperberg in celebration :)
yeah, it froze and then the quality dropped.
So is Christine doing something with FBFB along the lines that all these other sites are doing?
I was just about to ask about Twit too..
except ours should stay up... hopefully.
Now you've done it.
Great idea. Think it'll be pizza too while the numbers and pie charts are going on
There's talk of an iPod Touch 'Loop' accessory but no one seems to explain what it is
I have peeled the potatoes - phew!
(We're having sausages and roast potatoes!)
trip to the chip shop post event for us!
Sounds like a plan. Problem with having a baby #131342523525246
I imagine Mr. C and Christine's living room looks like the Twit stage.
Pizza in the oven... #nom ... i'm back...
wait... babies can't eat roast potatoes can they?
I'm going to say nope on NFC
There's no wrapper to remove so probably ok
The problem of us leaving the house post event. It's bath time. Things in the oven win!
but can they eat mint sauce?
Even with Pass Book?
Doesn't work with the case design is the rumour... But Jonnie is v. clever so people could be wrong.
if nina receives a mysterious mint-smelling package anytime soon with no sender details, I don't know what it is.
Mac OS Ken [Ken Ray] is supposed to be on too
Twit, that is
I kinda hope they don't announce the iMiniPadThing today. I'm not sure the ipad needs to be made any smaller just because of other 7'' devices.
Oh Belgium, why do you make my decision making so difficult?
Tim cook said at D6 "we won't leave a price umbrella for our competitors" [to undercut]
It'll happen but probably not today
Maybe Apple will surprise everyone and announce an iTypewriter
we need one at work. ipad too big for learning, iphone too small.
by that i mean, we need apple to sell one to students.
Is engadget not working?
Went with Hoegaarden Rose, nice and light too [3%]
And MacWorld seems to be not working either.
Verge going well though
Thanks Bassano that's working now
Engadget saying they are running late
And Macworld working now too...
they need a lukehpad.
free, good size, plays xbox games, comes with obligatory muse and rubens.
probably not the best target audience or price plan though.
The Verge: http://live.theverge.com/apple-iphone-5-live-blog/
FBFB it's like being at the cinema!
I think this one is normally the one that keeps working for longest under load: http://live.gdgt.com/live-iphone-5-launch-coverage/
Tim cook is a go
Ok, I'm thinking if I can upgrade for around 200USD I might get one and just try to sell it before moving to Japan.
How is Christine seeing it?
same as everyone else?
she's following tim cook around the stage
I went with the low 400kps feed, seems ok for now
Christine is in Cupertino!?!
FBFB is not limited to one location :)
She's watching the live blogs? Where people who are there are commenting that Tim is on stage no?
what? nope, i mean, via tweets from people that are there.
it's a bit of a trek that :)
we can't afford to send christine to an f1 race, but we'll push out the boat for apple :)
a good method of transport from rockall
I like Leo's iPuppet set-up :)
I've heard of James and the Giant Peach but this is ridiculous ;)
"Onto the Mac"
apparently the verge have and editable fbfb. i now have a new item on my 'list'.
I guess I was impressed because she seems to pass it on on FBFB before I hear it anywhere else.
On to the Mac... Will we see an update?
there are strong rumours of a new 13" MacBook Pro Retina... but maybe not today...
she is that awesome!
did you do predictions?
I think iMac now, MacBook for the iPad Jr event
lots of bests so far
Still struggling to upgrade our production Mac to Mountain Lion here.
ouch fbfb :)
Are we out of big cats yet?
he he... Note to Tim Cook... Don't mess with the FBFB
Thundercats next :)
I await OSX Stripey cat with baited breath
It's in Essex
What is the 1 left? And thundercats would be awesome!
If Lion is king of the jungle [though they live on the plains] how do you top that?
"Now to put this in perspective, we sold more iPads than any PC manufacturer sold of their entire lineup."
Weirdest comparison ever.
And the iPhone on it's own is bigger than Microsoft now
Well they haven't done lynx but presumably that was missed out because of Linux... So I think we are done...
How do they get these stats? 78% of me is dubious
Luke, you should always use odd number stats, they are more believable 93% of the time.
That's true... But its a bit weird too...
OMG, Cookie. Yes!
That just reminds me of Metal gear solid, which by means is no bad thing
Cookie ..... mmmmmm coookie :)
OS X Tabby Cat :)
I'm awaiting him to let us know that 80% of the time, the fragrance he has on works 100% of the time
Maybe we'll go back to wines instead of cat names?
100 apps per customer? how many do you have?
I'd rather not say :)
Here we go!!!
I think they should jump to Canines. OS X Wolf.
"Cookie also makes a bit of a joke, as 91% of web traffic from tablets comes from iPads. What are all the others doing? He asks."
Web broswing is probably the one thing a 7" tablet isn't good for
Many more in iTunes
its called iphone 5!!! woah.
i need more!
it rose from the floor. i want a phone trhat rises from the floor.
iPhone 5...is Alive!
"Ha! It rose up out of the stage."
5 rows of apps
OOh look, a phone, hi all :)
I have 244 on iTunes, but I rotate the ones on devices a lot more.
"Our favourite feature? This."
*legs pop out and iphone 5 walks away*
And now Indiana Jones comes out and has to get it off the pedestal.
14 mins in and we have a new product, is this a record?
Lots to reveal?
the leaks were right
Is that a welsh reference?
you're such a daffodil!
Still a newstand...
The world's thinnest smartphone...
But it's not smaller.
LOL 73 degrees and sunny in Cupertino.
and I swear FBFB says what they say on Twit before twit does. Maybe Twit is following FBFB.
It's bigger & smaller!
It's designed for hands. There goes my plan to use my nose for it
Christy Brown will not be happy
Who's free to upgrade?
I have to wait until Oct 2nd
black borders? really?!
For old apps
And Mr. C just finished updating the website to fit the new screen size.
am gonna have to redesign f1minute app. doh.
That puts me off big time. It;s like when play old pc games that don have widescreen, it just looks nasty
hehe. sidepodcast will be fine.
What should they do? Stretch?
I understand why the black borders are there and how awful it'll look stretched so i can't win either way!
Lots of rumours saying the resize that you could do when announcements came in could be reused for this
New apps can have a struts and springs thing apparently to fit either size
[via Mac OS Ken's dev friend]
people will update their apps though. i'll start as soon as we can download new xcode.
thats a big bar chart :)
Ultrafast Wireless = LTE
So I will be using SoftBank?
that reminds me... the F1 2012 demo should have finished downloading by now! #F1
*Waits for more interesting things later*
O2 in the UK!
These Hoegaarden are really nice but at 250ml, I can see how people have beer fridges next to their Lazee Boy chairs
t-mobile lte in the uk
Wait, Single chip? Does that really mean I could buy one here and use it overseas??
Once I get a service over there that is...
he looks a bit like alan rickman on engadgets photos
Yes but maybe still locked to carrier
Maybe... hard to see...
yup. Just one of the photos that flashed by then
Why, it was in the screen on the UK map
holy cow look at that A6!
Ooh i wonder what EA are up to
That is FAST!!!!
from engadget - "In Europe it'll be on DT and EE"
dunno if that was said or inferred tho.
I'm guessing that NFC isn't National Football Conference...
See, whilst games look wonderful on the iPod and whatnot virtual joypads are still hideous to use. They really need some kind of accessory.
The F1 game app just got better. Now with two mirrors!
They showed a new Infinity Blade at the iPad event and that still hasn't launched
UK doesn't have Spotify do they?
Didn't we start it?
i get it!
Oh, I didn't know.
i heard that drop from here ;)
The parent company is now Spotify Ltd in London, while research and development remains carried out by Spotify AB in Stockholm.
Backside Illumination on the camera. Not sure I want to photograph my backside,,,
Now they're just putting pretty words in
f2.4 aperture sounds like an improvement
My 35mm lens is 1.8
That comment about the Photos being untouched... That's not just a burn! that's a Ken Burn(s)
Leo aludes to the Nokia Lumia ad where they faked the video footage but implied it was shot by the phone
Giggles strikes again :)
28 megapixel panaroma.
Tonight, BBC1, 9pm.
so panorama is iphone 5, not ios 6?
as in, older phones not invited?
More evolutionary, like a 4S Tall
Still getting one
*throws nokia 3310 in the bin*
back camera 1080p, front is 720p. amazing.
My guess is yes, it's what they do
So now we have face detection and backside illumination, what are they going to highlight next?
Not sure we need to know, apple.
It tells you when you need to blow your nose.
even more audioer than before
Noise cancelling ear pieces--which still are uncomfortable as heck.
All your connectors haz ded
finally the iphone appears to do decent audio... hope they've sorted the insides too.
Very very fightenining.
Thunderbolt and Lightning
Charges by the stubble friction of Sir Ive
Ooh pretty connector...
Very very frightning!
And that joke is already old.
I have about 5 chargers in the house and another in the car plus the night time dock/alarm thing
Why is the adaptor so massive?
That adaptor looks like it might put a lot of pressure on the innards...
Goodness, the amount of adaptors you'll need..
They sell more adapters and dongles than anything else.
To reduce the chance of you dislodging the insides with the lever
Forstall is out!
I'm waiting for Hair Force One
Wait, so I will have to get the adapter to adapt my sd card adapter...
SD Card is for iPad, technically
This is the goodbye Google bit
Turn by turn for UK?
iCloud tabs is another "about time" but great feature
I want to be wrong about NFC...
been sitting looking at a dead cloud button since mountain lion upgrade. time it did someting :)
FBFB: How much screen is taken up by other things though? Bit of a bar at the top? I don't find it annoying but there seems to be love for the fullscreen.
Apple are into their uni-tasking since Lion and fullscreen apps
Huh, that was an idea of the day for me a couple weeks ago... yet another non original one for me. :)
True, though between desktop machines has been possible, no?
Yea. Makes sense if there are loads of windows, but you can only view one thing at a time on Safari, so I don't really get it.
Oh, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late. Can I buy it yet?
this is exactly the same demo as at wwdc.
Reading long articles is nicer in full screen. I don't want it often but I do like it
do we have video, or just live blog updates?
huh my shirt is clean!!!
I'll have to see it, I really don't understand what it means.
just the fbfb - http://factbytefactbox.com/live
Oh, wait the cute girl is on Twit Live. I'll watch that :-)
The address bar and bookmarks bar disappear
Decent pics from The Verge too
I haven't printed a boarding pass in over a year. e-boarding passes is so nice
Hmm, if only Ryanair and Easyjet would use them...
They will in time, for a price :)
wonder if the nfl thing works in the uk.
I just checked my upgrade status for my phone. I'm not due till the 7th of October! That's like 3 more weeks!!
Thats it? for iOS6?
Siri, which lap will Maldonado crash?
it was word for word the same demo. seems a waste of stage time.
It was done at WWDC in June
Off to go singing so will catch up later. Understand some folks don't like it but I'm sad Christine's awesome fbfb skills are not in my Twitter timeline.
Is the back two-tone, metal and glass?
Black anodised back, nice
Big software and mini phone update 1 year
Big phone update and mini software update year 2...
I see johnny ive
and I say mini the mini updates are still big really...
we get grief, oh so much grief.
This also means no NFC for next year either btw.
not sure when i'll use NFC, what the use-case i'm missing?
Also I would just like to say I think it's very unlikely we will see an iPod update now... so Mr C...
it has gone on a loong time. i'll have to buy an iphone 5 :(
Swipe to pay at Starbucks, no biggie
Dude you are getting my castoffs.
Indeed. I think there are really neat use cases to be had, but we're not there yet. I would happily pay for things with my phone for example.
On Android you can, for example, pair a device with a speaker by touching your phone to the speaker...
But until there is a use case that is perfect, Apple won't include it just to have it.
hehehe. i just need to ditch this crappy itouch.
oh so old.
I still can;t get past the screen.
I asked Siri for "4 minutes" instead of "4 minute timer" and it replied: I found this event, with a calendar entry for the Apple event :)
Nice touch :)
I am confident in my prediction. The new iPod will arrive as the prelude to the iPad Air in about a month.
It looks too crammed.
It;s obviously designed with 16:9 in mine but it looks awful
Agreed with that, now
Correct... Not mIni or Nano... the small iPad will be marketed as a light iPad not a small iPad. That's my guess...
I had machining in the Keynote Bingo!
ooooooh i hope the 4 and 4s prices apply here!
iPhone 4 is now free on contract!
£99 for a 4S? I'd buy that.
wowsers. maybe i could get that...
(ahem + 2 year contract)
Same as last year for the previous gen model
ahh, no. contract would suit me better.
iOS 6 Sep 19th
crap ios6 isn't out today :(
Verge's quick edit of their typo iOS 5 then... Man Mr C... You are going to need to work to keep up :)
am on it. off-season starts soon :)
iPods or just iTunes?
they're gonna announce EJ created music
Ok, I'm going to head to lunch.
awww... I shouldn't have said...
It's coming now
Damn. I have to keep my castoffs!
you jinxed it.
Well I am from the Parade Lap team :)
Would love a ground up rewrite of iTunes :) (aint gonna happen :) )
iTunes 11 is not far apparently but I can't see it being totally revamped but it needs to be
I hope the Podcast app is improved again before next week. It's still not good enough
terrible, terrible app.
"We've decided to revamp iTunes on windows by deciding to no longer power it with a potato"
This sounds like what they were originally planning to do with... What was that social network called? Ping?
It's Reel to Really Terrible...
That no one uses
oh god, ping!
True story. It's better on the Mac but still too bloated
So am I basically the only person who doesn't work for Apple who likes the Podcast app?
I see muuuuussee
i think so.
To be fair I haven't used it yet, but I wanted to do my joke :)
It needs granular fine tuning. Autodownload or manual for all not case by case. I used about 800MB in 11 days before I realised!
There's talk of inner conflict between departments about the skeuomorphic design that Apple is using these days
I actually have to go now... I'll be back in a bit... to take your gloating / gloat ;)
no gloating from me. i just want a new ipod touch. das all.
i want cheap possible lower generation iphones, which is happening! so thats all good.
They are playing coldplay!
If you don't care about Siri, the 4 is a fab device
and the foo fighters, good tastes :)
i fear siri and myself would get in an argument
It won't tell you that Rubens is comiing back to F1 just yet, sorry
what a siri thing it is.
Siri is just totally nonchalent with me. Not interesting in helping. I think she/he might be a teenager.
When's the iPhone on sale? 21st?
Re-invent the Nano
My first iPod was a Mini. Loved that
I love how they announce every new product with "It;s the best #### we've ever created'
lightning for the nano.
Taller again, not square
Multi Touch Nano
it's a baby itouch
I guess the new ipod is going to have the awful screen too.
Built in apps only like the first iPhone
There's a strange sense of new and old with this nano which I quite like
Obviously the best one they've ever created
If the Classic is discontinued, I have to buy one while they last
what's with the horrific two-tone Apple logo?
Aluminium back, it's probably reflection on the logo
Hello everyone, just got in, how is everything looking?
The same but a bit taller.
Lots of strange screens. It's scary :(
As expected so far and Mr C will be buying a new iPod Touch
ah so i can get an iphone 4s then and not worry about the differences? :)
Although free iPhone 4 on contract is awesome
no word on the camera????
More or less
there is a new ipod touch?!?! ohhhh!
not that i need a new one anyway!
Polaroid will email your pics to you :)
Handy FBFB will catch you right up :)
you fbfb'd it??? <3 you!! :)
christine has been better than engagdet and the rest, awesomeness!
So, prices and we're done, I expect
Aww. I'd be nothing without them though :)
New camera for the ipod
They didnt use the iSight pun again.
oh but they did!! yes!"
Also f2.4 with LED flash, which is decent
Mr C is preordering one of these surely!
much better than this thing.
Although we don't know the price
Also has the Panorama feature so i guess the BBC must like them a lot
i'll pay whatever they're asking :)
It was the ninja that sold it to you, wasn't it.
Well if that was the case why haven't you been buying an unlocked iPhone and not putting a sim card in?
This is the Loop thing that was leaked
With the camera strap now you can walk and take photos at the same time
Well some people can ;)
I like to think it of a unique skill
The leaks have been really strong this year. So much for doubling down!
airplay mirroring mr c!!!
Ooh, iPod Touch with AirPlay Mirroring
oh i think i want the iphone 5 instead of the iphone 4s... i dont even have a reason for it, other than it is new and shiny and better.... :D
this is a long announcement!
The best leaks we've ever created
the 4s is so cheap now though!
It's called the Reality Distortion Field, don't worry, it's normal
it's so tall
1.5hrs is about standard these days
They're turning their attention all over the place
new ipod headphones, another lea
i know, but it's not as new and shiny..
why do apple do this to me...
Bet they're still not comfortable or available in black
they don't work, it still thinks it's a bloomin phone. i want an ipod touch that's more powerful than this one. this is chuffing awesome.
they are not fooling me with their scary 4 inch screen!
theyr'e called earpods.
but think of it... slightly bigger = slightly better for my pics = less need for ipad = less money spent.
ahh! that's a good use for it. sensible thinking :)
camera is better than ipad 4sure.
Rigid buds aren't good, are they rubber?
See if they announced the iPad Air/Mini/Jr at the end of this then they genuinely could bring back the "and there's one more thing"
Now they can say the best headphones we've ever created for this as the ones they've always made are terrible :)
i will never take pics on an ipad, so dont worry! :) i meant for looking at pictures. :)
I still like the old apple in ear earbuds. But those break all of the time!
Their servers wouldn't melt, they'd vapourise!
They look weird, and they have a weird name, but don't let me put you off.
I'm glad FBFB shares my shock at the name
have you seen photoshop touch retina. stunning.
That's a good price
Old AND new iPod Touches still on sale
You get your red!
Not quite rocket red
i'll buy that for three hundred and ninety nine dollars.
no, the idea of photoshopping on an ipad scares me. :D
it's the future
it's not scary, it's quite basic, but the screen, oh the screen.
No sign of my predicted iTypewriter
probably, but unless you tel connect a mouse to an ipad i'm gonna find it odd! :)
TIM STEVENS 7:40 PM
"And iPhone 5. The thinnest, fastest and best iPhone we have ever shipped. Powered by iPhone 6."
EXCLUSIVE SCOOP! :)
Come on... One more thing?
it's not good for detail, but you do basic edits in the field, then pics sync back to proper photoshop and you finish it.
Ah no he's thanking the employees... it's over
Gruber said that the new version of iTunes looked really good.
MacBreak Weekly starts straight after this
Leo should speak to Andy Ihnatko who is at the event
prediction time for that announcement, before xmas?
When's the next quarterly results scheduled? After that
They should just let dave grohl oresent the conferences
ohhhh the nano looks cute!!! if i get an iphone i'll probably think about selling my ipod touch so that would be perfect!!
So, phone has headphone jack on top [good] and iPod Touch has it on the bottom
it looks brilliant! Loved that little surprise, probably the only thing that didn';t come out in the leaks. Seems a really nice mix of old type of models and the newer types too.
Plus it's nice to have the nano back. My first iPod was a fat nano :)
although if new ipods are coming out in october...
ah look at me, i'm talking like i can afford this stuff! hehe!
Dave does not look impressed, FBFB
When you get apps and stuff on your phone, you can't have your whole library on it too
I have my iPod Video for long journeys and my phone is 64GB
Got to be!
They announce... they need to have 2/3 weeks to get into stores after that. In America people start their Christmas shopping on Black Friday... That's November 23rd this year. HAS to be at least 3 weeks before then... So very latest is first week November.
If it isn't then it isn't happening for a while.
the key takeaway is that Software is currently harder than Hardware. That phone is ready, why don't we have it? iOS 6 is late by a week!
The new iPad Air will run the same software and run iPad 2 style hardware is my guess...
happy with ipod touch, not happy with io6 delay. good keynote i reckon.
will order a kindle this week too.
They've taken his HTC away and given him an iPhone
"There goes my Hero"
could be january though.
This was my biggest fear about the new design.
nano was the big real great thing for me, nice to see iTunes is getting refreshed and very pleased that iPhone 4/4s is spiralling down in price.
Very disappointed in the iPhone 5 though I must admit
A whole seven days. The internet has broken humanity :)
I think I was most excited about the built in panorama. But I am silly like that.
*hands you an argos catalogue*
just take it!!!
cheapest, 16GB - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0083PWAWU/
christine, is mr c allowed in the argos catalogue?
the headphone jack positioning is an issue because?
In it, as in people can buy him?
With a charger and without ads is the same as the Nexus, apparently
But I'd be curious in an Android showdown between us :)
no because he's priceless! #cheesy
i mean is he allowed to look in the laminated book of dreams as I imagine he'd want to buy the entire technology section :)
i know, but it's amazon, not google.
I'm with you I love these built in features.
My favourite iOS 6 feature is that Apple have made a great way for apps to signal that they have an app of their website available and not show it (or use a special link to take you to the article you are looking at in the app) if you have the app installed.
The end of the giant guardian & daily mail pop ups saying "DON'T YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN APPPPPP PPPPLLLELLLELLEASSSEEE LOOOK AT OUR APPPPPP"
hehe. i save all my money for two events a year and we happen to live comment them both ;)
Ok, I kinda see that
who knew the eurovision and doctor who could be so expensive?
TIM STEVENS 7:48 PM
"There goes my hero. He's ordinary."
Sorry, that's a misquote. He actually said. "He's orrrdinaaaary!"
:) :) :)
wait. it says that NOW? is it not embargoed until IOS 6 is out? we're sitting on the f1minute one.
Those are *so* annoying
Well I have my phone in my shirt pocket most of the time. I have my phone the right way up because I AM NOT A MADMAN and the headphone jack can plug in at the top.
( I may be a madman :) )
Be a rebel!
in my whole life i have never thought about that.
not once :)
You do not have shirts.
too busy buying all the ipods, ever.
all of them.
i have only seen a picture of it but it looks pretty.. my problem is i always want the newest version of everything. Pleased that an iphone 4s may actually happen fror me now tho :)
Can't listen to headphones whilst docked [at work]
No it currently does the big pop up. Not the nice version... I'm really excited about the feature coming out when I hope they do that.
i only have one. but you've been with me every time i've replaced it ;)
$99/hopegully £79/99 on contract is a wonderful drop!
but as bassano says, even a 4 for free on contract is wonderful
oh phew. next week then :)
I wanted to be blown away by it and it just didn't really do anything for me. The processor amazes me though
so we nothing at all to download today?
iPod Touch specs
Starts at £169
You mean I updated all those apps for nothing?? Bah!
i like downloading stuff :(
We should upload something just so you can download it
I think revolutionary and iPhone are away for a while...
But I think they are still ahead of the competition (if you haven't already been persuaded but different benefits of Android etc which there obviously are).
The next revolutionary iPhone event will be called, "Back to the iPhone" :)
First standing O since Steve?
that is a very nice drop!
that's just renting ;)
sorry - streaming
ohh you have reminded me i need to fix my ipod touch seeing as all my apps are broken.
My contract is running up at the end of the year and I'm looking more at new phones as time goes on. iPhone 4/4s really attracts me but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how attracted I am by the new Samsungs too.
Apple just threw their chips in with their price drop though, now it's time for others to play their hand.
Also I don't know how to play poker.
Fine. This one's on the house, we love our downloaders
Thanks Christine for some awesome FBFB! very useful :D
Indeed. FBFBing the iPad Air event? ;)
They're so massive
They are looking very tired ;)
I knooow but I do like them. also It kind of defeats my comments over the last 2 hours about the screen if you think about it :)
Thanks Christine and Mr C and everyone in the comments :)
It was fun, and I couldn't entrust it to Mr C for the evening, goodness knows what would happen.
Plus, they're crap at updating the OS
Imagine... it would all be lower case!
He'd buy it all and spill wine on his stuff to justify it
Hey guys, Brij has asked me to let those going to the meetup know that she'll be a little late as she's just pulled into Kings X.
yeah I've tried to keep up with android updates but it's impossible. No central structure to anything just updates all over the place, some get them, some don't. Mental way to run an OS if you ask me.
More on the new iTunes:
what??? i asked her what time she would be there and she never came back. haven't plugged it or anything?!
Oh, headphone jack IS on the bottom of the iPhone :(
There's a meet-up? On an Apple day?
What madness is this?
They appear to have the Dom Joly version of the iPhone on that page :)
this is why i hate meetups.
I mean the OS, not just the apps
That's what I mean, Android OS. Some phones get updated, others dont, others that do don;t receive it properly, and so on... it's crazy!
Yeah, the manufacturers want you to buy another not update it
Stores open http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch/select
oooh what size!
Can't see 5th Gen in store yet
Need to head off for a shower but it's been a fun evening, cheers all :)
"Pre-Order from Sep 14th" on the US site
Andy Ihnatko has a phone in hand on Twit
Ooh, just noticed the black iPhone has an anodised metal band around the edge too
same here: http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch
TM did bad? *shrinks to corner with 3GS*
ohh apple stop tempting me, iphone 4s is $99 in the US store, but is still £499 in the UK one. ohh apple i want to buy one nooowwwww
you didn't no, sorry sir.
break down in communication somewhere. i was expecting a tweet saying "i'll be at the coal hole at 8pm" that i could retweet to anyone in the london area.
i figured that would happen yesterday though. i really hate being the middleman.
That's off contract
I did briefly read the tweets.
both prices are off contract tho aren't they?
i'm just crap at organising.
US prices advertised differently on their site. Use your carrier's site and then pick one up at the Apple store
It does feel a bit disappointing not to have anything new to play with yet. I want to see new iTunes.
argh do i have to do it through orange? they'll make me change my contract. *sulks*
Lou, the thing about getting an iPhone 4S means 16GB only
You may have too. It'll have to be an iPhone contract
Ask Andy T
16GB is okay tho, i only need it as a phone, not using it as my primary music device (don't judge me)
They are subsidising it, after all
And apps and photos and podcasts and ....
ohhh why tho? cause you can request an Iphone sim from them for free... :( *sobs* these things are never easy.
Because they're paying Apple £400-500 for it on your behalf
i have an ipod touch for all that. i can sync certain things with iphone.. :) I never use photos on my ipod anyway really, other than to have a basic portfolio really.
yeah it makes sense, but the iphone contract is rubbish compared to what i'm on now.
Then go off contract and sell your phone and iPod Touch
It's the way it works
Photostream stores the last 1000 pics across your phone and Mac, for free
i sold the iphone 4 for £170 the other day, cant sell current phone as Dad wants it. Don't want to sell Ipod touch :D
no iphone for me then! *sobs*
wouldn't have happened on steve's watch.
yeah, Dad want's my HTC desire.
Sorry, just saw that
How much is your current contract per month>
£15.50 with unlimited texts, 400 mins and a ridiculous amount of internet usage. Never gone over it.
Can't get a good quality iphone contract like that for the same price on orange. They wont let me use this contract and get an iphone (and me pay the difference.) Has to be an iphone contract.
You won't replicate that. Three is pretty good with unlimited data but most plans hover around the £30 mark across all networks
500MB of data is the minimum, you will use more than you currently do. Guaranteed
@theollymann: #earpods - not exactly worth ditching my Bose’s for,but vastly more comfortable+powerful than Apple’s old iPod freebies.Impressive.#iphone5
The Jonny Ive video
yeah, thats the problem. Orange let you order an iphone sim for any contract i think tho.. so that was more ideal for my usage/ budget.
ah an iphone was looking so promising for a minute there.
iPhone 4/4S needs a micro SIM, 5 needs a Nano SIM so that know what you're going to be using it for
iOwnership comes at a cost. Buy a refurb 4 or 4S and get a SIM for it
this is why the touch is so brilliant.
If you have a MiFi and don't need to make calls, or non-iMessage texts
ahh cool, i will make sure i get a micro sim if the time comes.
dad says he'll upgrade his contract for me and i can have the iphone, but there is no way my dad will be able to cope on the rubbish £25 orange iphone contract. i don't think i'll be getting an iphone then. oh damn you apple, you suck!
yeah, i'm starting to appreciate mine a bit more now :)
Yeah, student life is so unfair :)
i do and i can call from skype. have no one to text.
Which is why you don't need a phone. Most of us do though
Cor it's a rollercoaster of emotions today.
student life sucks at the moment!
agreed. touch is the perfect device for me, hence the need for an update today.
Enjoy it while you can
I don't understand why it's not available till Friday
don't say that to me at the moment, i'll never want to grow old if this is as good as it gets!
i'm surprised Apple haven't worked out a way to download a new iphone 5 and let it materialise out of the macbook screen ;)
No, it gets better [not always] but those are fun times. Enjoy the moment inbetween the stress
Why text when you can tweet.
Most of my home friends aren't on Twitter
i'm going to grab hold of those moments when they happen :D
i have my life sussed :)
That's what Fb does well - allows you to keep in contact with the late-adopters
Bleurgh, I hate Bookface with a passion
It does a job though
we need to get you a space on the Ted lectures 'run your life this way' :)
It does, it's just not for me
hehe. living in the future with mr c.
They'd have to stream it from Rockall, Mr C won't go to them
For a sec I though you were advocating Ted-K-lectures
hehe! yes! live streamed to the conference on an iphone without even leaving the house! :)
christine has an iphone, was figuring he could use that, although the new ipod would do it ;)
iPhone people don't let non-iPhone people use their stuff :)
Apple Releases iOS 6 Golden Master to Developers
so you can't travel and use lte:
Apple has designed different versions of the iPhone 5 in order to capture all of world’s different LTE networks - http://gigaom.com/apple/4g-fragmentation-forces-apple-to-build-3-separate-iphones/
Mr C: Prices for 5th Gen [still not on Apple site]
an 8GB version?
That might be a mistake
32GB - £299
64GB - £389
Is that the same as today?
i paid around £300 for my ipod touch last october, so prices seem the same.
MacWorld UK says
32GB - £249
64GB - £329
Avail in Oct, pre-orders begin on Friday
[rumours about production issues may be true after all]
Lou: 16GB iPhone 4S is £21.50 on O2 [that's before they release iPhone 5 info]
oh really?! shame you can't get any O2 signal here then. Hopefully Orange are in the process of updating things, but the issue is the contract it comes with. Dad's happy to take the contract for me (so i still get my nice amount of minutes etc) but he can't cope with the number of minutes and calls a cheaper iphone contract gives you each month.
I have a friend who works in orange who can get me a discounted handset with the contract but it's just the contracts that are the issue. stupid orange.
4G requires a new contract with EE too
Vodafone no good?
Not O2 compatible for 4G at the moment. Which is fine as they have no 4G network yet
oh i don't mind about 4G, it wont work in the countryside at the moment either, right? an iphone 4s will do me nicely, but if i really think about it i don't actually need a new phone .. *sob*
i wish i could change providers sometimes, cause i'm sure the contracts may be better, but my whole family is on orange, and with orange's magic numbers it means i can call them for free, which is handy for a poor student :)
yeah, EE really have the jump on other uk networks at the moment. massive controversy that.
I'm awaiting prices before hankering for that.
T-mobile is usually poor in London and Orange can be patchy. I'm not holding my breath but the speed would be nice
heard they have tests running in cardiff. we need to send lukeh to check.
Lightning connectors and adaptors aren't cheap [as expected]
20cm 30-pin to Lightning = £30
I'll need the chunky adaptor shown on stage for the car set-up = £25
Hope next car has Bluetooth stereo
Hands on with the iPhone 5
missed this comment, but the dock has a headphone port on the back, for that reason.