A sandstorm! Who would have thought? Of course we are all laughing hysterically at the fact that the teams raced off to the desert to avoid the weather and have been halted by... the weather. But we are also talking about other things:

  • Webber's triumphant return. I almost feel sorry for Vettel, having to sit around and wait for his team mate to fail, and it was not to be. The Australian was completely fine, said it was all much easier than he'd expected, and did more than a race distance. Can we safely say that he will be on top form for the racing to start? Still not sure if that top form is enough though.
  • Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence, despite ongoing dramas between the FIA and the GPDA. So, who was it? Who has crossed the picket line? Was it those who didn't have to pay that much, or those who get their team to pay it anyway?
  • Apparently, Ferrari (the car company) have posted record sales for 2008, despite the auto industry struggling intensely in recent months. What is it about the prancing horse that means people keep shelling out?

That should keep us going until the testing kicks off again today, assuming that there is any running to keep an eye on! Don't forget to vote on the first (and only) team mate battle in the Character Cup, and when you're done, I'll see you in the comments.

364 responses

  • me12/02/2009 at 00:17

    Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence

    grandprix.com were on the money yesterday morning and this is what they're saying now:

    "FIA President Max Mosley has written to the Grand Prix Drivers Association, responding to their press release of last week, which complained about the price of Formula 1 Super Licences."

    more: http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21176.html

  • me12/02/2009 at 00:39

    no idea why i've never tried this before:

    http://drop.io/firefox

    let's you upload files or a folder full of files from your computer into drop.io using the firefox status bar. it's a very fast way of getting things onto the drop.

  • me12/02/2009 at 00:41

    am now looking for things to drop...

  • Andy Taylor12/02/2009 at 00:43

    am now looking for things to drop…

    When the only tool you have is a hammer....

    You're probably Jeremy Clarkson.

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 00:47

    When the only tool you have is a hammer….

    You’re probably Jeremy Clarkson.

    To be fair, Clarkson is quite successful with the hammer.

  • me12/02/2009 at 00:50

    i found something:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/giggles-rap-mp3

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 00:55

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/giggles-rap-mp3

    It never fails to make me laugh. :D

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 00:57

    On which giggling note reminds me: So when are you planning to bring back the Panel, and the Quiz, and the Chat?

  • lou12/02/2009 at 00:59

    i found something:

    I'd forgotten about that :D :D :D :D

  • me12/02/2009 at 01:03

    On which giggling note reminds me: So when are you planning to bring back the Panel, and the Quiz, and the Chat?

    yup to all. as far as i know:

    - christine has a second quiz readied. we'll be hassling joe for a convenient time to record v.soon.

    - panel i think returns just before the season starts, but i would imagine we'll wait and see what the bbc f1 build-up schedule looks like before committing to anything.

    - chat, possibly as soon as sunday 22nd, we'll probably confirm that this weekend.

    all in all we're actually mostly on track with everything we promised to do post-brazil, except we haven't squeezed in interviews with journeyer / others, and we've failed to make the multi-camera / skype-video live show ideas come to life as we'd hoped.

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 01:08

    all in all we’re actually mostly on track with everything we promised to do post-brazil, except we haven’t squeezed in interviews with journeyer / others, and we’ve failed to make the multi-camera / skype-video live show ideas come to life as we’d hoped.

    Despite the small exceptions, it sounds awesome. You're getting there, Looking forward to Chat... and Panel... and Quiz... and Interviews!

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 01:12

    Ollie: 12/02/2009 at 00:47

    When the only tool you have is a hammer….

    You’re probably Jeremy Clarkson.

    To be fair, Clarkson is quite successful with the hammer.

    All he needs is some duct tape and the blokes toolkit is complete.

    Doesn't move and it should? Hit it with the hammer until it does.

    Moves when it shouldn't? Add more duct tape.

    Duct tape - it's like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 01:12

    Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence, despite ongoing dramas between the FIA and the GPDA. So, who was it? {Christine - original entry}

    Also, did these people pay before everyone agreed they wouldn't pay the Superlicence? I cannot imagine the FIA refunding someone who suddenly decided to do without in the hopes of getting a cheaper Superlicence later.

    If the drivers in question paid after the GPDA took its stance, then I would not be surprised if there was a team that acquiesced to pressure from Mr Mosley, in which case its drivers might not have had a say in the matter. Ferrari strikes me as the most likely candidate (though since neither driver is a member of the GPDA anyway, it might be that no pressure was needed).

    The other one is a mystery - if there had been two teams that buckled, then four drivers would have paid.

  • me12/02/2009 at 01:13

    Duct tape - it’s like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

    amen.

  • Aitch12/02/2009 at 01:15

    Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence

    Does anyone know what will happen in 43 days and 15 minutes if only a few drivers have paid their licence fee, will we have another USGP 2005 or will replacement drivers be used?

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 01:15

    Duct tape - it’s like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

    amen.

    Ms. Winfrey, I believe. Unless that's another case of Chinese Whispers.

    Night Lou. :)

  • Andy Taylor12/02/2009 at 01:16

    All he needs is some duct tape and the blokes toolkit is complete.

    I thought you also needed WD-40 ?

    Doesn’t move and it should? Use WD-40.

    Moves when it shouldn’t? Use duct tape.

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 01:16

    Does anyone know what will happen in 43 days and 15 minutes if only a few drivers have paid their licence fee, will we have another USGP 2005 or will replacement drivers be used?

    I did wonder what Mosley meant with his quote 'Pay, don't pay. The Oz GP will still happen.'

  • Dom12/02/2009 at 01:17

    Does anyone know what will happen in 43 days and 15 minutes if only a few drivers have paid their licence fee, will we have another USGP 2005 or will replacement drivers be used?

    Presumably the teams would find replacements if their drivers refuse to race?

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 01:21

    Does anyone know what will happen in 43 days and 15 minutes if only a few drivers have paid their licence fee, will we have another USGP 2005 or will replacement drivers be used? {Aitch - comment #14}

    Depends what the teams decide to do. If they can find alternative drivers who will pay, then there will be replacement drivers used. These will count towards the four drivers permitted each year, so a team that has to replace both drivers this way cannot make any more changes that season unless:

    a) The original drivers change their mind and get Superlicences or

    b) force majeure is invoked (for example, if one of the replacements breaks a leg and neither original driver has a Superlicence).

    But if the replacement drivers back up the majority of the race drivers, then a US GP 2005 situation will ensue unless someone decides to invoke the "cancellation if fewer than 12 cars available for event" clause.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 01:21

    Does anyone know what will happen in 43 days and 15 minutes if only a few drivers have paid their licence fee, will we have another USGP 2005 or will replacement drivers be used?

    To quote Keke Rosberg in a pre-race argument when he sat in his car while all the other drivers held a series of meetings to protest about something (Dalas 84?) In the end we are all whores and whatever is said beforehand when they show us a green light we will race.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 01:22

    Oh, and Max's prediction of a quiet Friday will come true whatever happens - with Fridays being included in the engine pool count and no used engines to play with, no team will want to risk damaging an engine by doing more than the bare minimum of pre-qualifying running.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 01:23

    Oh, and Max’s prediction of a quiet Friday will come true whatever happens - with Fridays being included in the engine pool count and no used engines to play with, no team will want to risk damaging an engine by doing more than the bare minimum of pre-qualifying running.

    But with the ban on in-season testing, they may have no choice but to do significant running.

  • me12/02/2009 at 01:24

    Oh, and Max’s prediction of a quiet Friday will come true whatever happens - with Fridays being included in the engine pool count and no used engines to play with, no team will want to risk damaging an engine by doing more than the bare minimum of pre-qualifying running.

    oh bloomin' heck. it's gonna be fun staying up and commenting on that then!

  • me12/02/2009 at 01:24

    But with the ban on in-season testing, they may have no choice but to do significant running.

    yay :D

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 01:25

    To quote Keke Rosberg in a pre-race argument when he sat in his car while all the other drivers held a series of meetings to protest about something (Dalas 84?) In the end we are all whores and whatever is said beforehand when they show us a green light we will race. {Steven Roy - comment #20}

    Especially with Bernie on the opposite side telling everyone to race...

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 01:27

    But with the ban on in-season testing, they may have no choice but to do significant running. {Journeyer - comment #22}

    They can do Friday running when they have used engines to play with...

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 01:44

    Especially with Bernie on the opposite side telling everyone to race…

    If that were true, then US 05 would've had a full grid. This isn't as true as it used to be.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 01:53

    If that were true, then US 05 would’ve had a full grid. This isn’t as true as it used to be.

    But then Michelin had gone public and said there was a safety risk so had a driver been hurt someone would have ended up in court. This is different.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 01:58

    But then Michelin had gone public and said there was a safety risk so had a driver been hurt someone would have ended up in court. This is different.

    One more element to consider: the drivers now probably aren't as fearful of Bernie as Keke's generation. If they want to prove a point, they may not be as hesitant even after Bernie orders them to race.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 01:59

    Also, Bernie still could've gotten everyone to agree on a chicane had US 05 happened 20-25 years before. But it didn't happen.

  • Nathan12/02/2009 at 04:16

    What is it about the prancing horse that means people keep shelling out?

    It's the financial crisis - that means the poor get poorer and the rich buy Ferraris.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 04:35

    It’s a financial crisis - that means the poor get poorer and the rich buy Ferraris.

    Can you say 'company bonus'? Probably should say it along with 'bailout money'.

  • F1Wolf12/02/2009 at 06:46

    Change of topic - Bernie on F1 and Internet:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73223

    I wonder, if the things are the way Bernie says they are, why ITV was the only broadcaster having at least some weekend action online ?

    Getting live TV feeds online is no longer rocket scienece, right ?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 06:59

    Strange that Di Resta isn't doing DTM, considering he was Mercedes' best driver last year. Does that mean he will become a test driver or FIF1 driver, I wonder?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 07:00

    I did wonder what Mosley meant with his quote ‘Pay, don’t pay. The Oz GP will still happen.’

    He'll attempt to get the GP2 drivers in the F1 cars. It might work - most of them are already test drivers or have experience in an F1 car...

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 07:04

    Strange that Di Resta isn’t doing DTM, considering he was Mercedes’ best driver last year. Does that mean he will become a test driver or FIF1 driver, I wonder?

    Being a test driver these days isn't really a step up is it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 07:09

    To quote Keke Rosberg in a pre-race argument when he sat in his car while all the other drivers held a series of meetings to protest about something (Dalas 84?) In the end we are all whores and whatever is said beforehand when they show us a green light we will race.

    Hehe. If the drivers are the whores, then Bernie is the Pimp :-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 07:09

    Being a test driver these days isn’t really a step up is it?

    No, not really :-(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 07:16

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73226

    Mclaren were not in too much trouble then?

  • Scott in Italy (I have more money than Sato)12/02/2009 at 07:42

    Dumb question, has the Michael Schumacher story in hospital story been mentioned in here?

  • Scott in Italy (I have more money than Sato)12/02/2009 at 07:52

    sorry if the story was posted on these sights last night (I haven't checked)

    www.michael-schumacher.de:

    "Today I had an accident at the biking tests in Cartagena, and to be safe I went to a hospital. I was driving down start-finish and when breaking into the first corner I hit some bumps which made me fall. The checks in the hospital showed nothing and I am fine, therefore I went back home at the evening."

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 09:24

    Testing footage from yesterday at Jerez, and look who appears first! Webber! :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZPWJgiqZ4

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 09:26

    First comment of the day and I'm moderated. Why does it hate me posting links! :(

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 09:33

    First comment of the day and I’m moderated. Why does it hate me posting links!

    Found it. Try not to take it personally, it's just a bunch of 1s and 0s.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 09:36

    Hamilton receives gold Blue Peter badge

    Now that's the highlight of his career ;-)

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 09:41

    Another shameless plug for thr BAT 1986 game:

    http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&36956

    Password: bourdais

    Current line-ups:

    Williams: Scott Woodwiss & Gavin Brown

    McLaren: Dank and Dom

    Lotus: Steven Roy and Selidor (Reigning SPC BAT champion)

    Minardi: Alianora La Canta and R.G

    Ligier: Alenyaa

    Available cars:

    1x Ligier

    2x Ferraris

    2x Tyrrells

    2x Brabhams

    2x Benettons

    2x Arrows

    2x Haas Lolas

    2x Zakspeeds

    2x Osellas

    2x AGS

    :)

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 09:50

    No one wants the Ferraris and the Benettons?

    Someone might want those Benettons - they won a race that year and nearly won another. :D

  • Maverick12/02/2009 at 09:53

    Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence, despite ongoing dramas between the FIA and the GPDA.

    Surely the non-GPDA members?

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 09:55

    Surely the non-GPDA members?

    Could very well be.

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 10:03

    Adrian Newey set to step down in the next couple of years according to Autosport today. Looking to leave his day-to-day role and instead become a consultant at the team.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:04

    Adrian Newey set to step down in the next couple of years according to Autosport today. Looking to leave his day-to-day role and instead become a consultant at the team.

    Consultant... that means more money for him!

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 10:11

    Consultant… that means more money for him!

    He's on 'around' £8 million a year at the moment!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:25

    In other news:

    No cause determined in McRae crash

    Basically they're just blaming Colin for bad airmanship. I guess it's easy to do when no other cause is apparent.

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 10:30

    Better than the BBC's headline for the same story: 'McRae flying license had expired'

    Like that was a major factor in the accident?

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 10:34

    Non-F1 news: Audi R15 TDi spotted!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73231

    I think it looks great! :D

  • Al12/02/2009 at 10:35

    Would it be allright if I joined the new Batracer game?

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:36

    Found it. Try not to take it personally, it’s just a bunch of 1s and 0s.

    hehehehe.

    also, seeing as you asked scott, i think it's because you're posting a lot of youtube links. take a look at the url you just posted:

    ?v=-NZPWJgiqZ4

    if you were a computer checking to make sure no-one posted bad stuff, you would be pretty suspicious of that wouldn't you?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:40

    Non-F1 news: Audi R15 TDi spotted!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73231

    Tom Kristensen has been very naughty and been posting pics of a closed roof prototype in Audi colours (sourced from the web) on his Facebook page. Clearly he was leading us all down the garden path...

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 10:41

    Just dropped the car off for it's MOT

    Feel a bit like Flav putting a fresh Renault '09 in for a crash test :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:43

    Like that was a major factor in the accident?

    i know the guy is a hero to many. but, if an unlicensed driver killed someone on the road, you'd probably consider the lack of a licence to be pretty significant would you?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:44

    Better than the BBC’s headline for the same story.

    Like that was a major factor in the accident?

    I would presume that the families of the victims will be trying to sue the McRae family, after reading that story.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:45

    i know the guy is a hero to many. but, if an unlicensed driver killed someone on the road, you’d probably consider the lack of a licence to be pretty significant would you?

    Pilot's licences are different. They expire (unlike car licences). Therefore it doesn't mean that he couldn't fly that helicopter, just that he shouldn't have until he renewed his licence.

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 10:45

    i know the guy is a hero to many. but, if an unlicensed driver killed someone on the road, you’d probably consider the lack of a licence to be pretty significant would you?

    Bit different though. My understanding is his helicopter license expired, not that he was incompetent to fly the thing. Compared to losing your drivers license which is usually the result of being a klutz to begin with.

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:46

    Pilot’s licences are different. They expire (unlike car licences). Therefore it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t fly that helicopter, just that he shouldn’t have until he renewed his licence.

    they expire for good reason!

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 10:48

    Pilot’s licences are different. They expire (unlike car licences).

    My driving licence has an expiry date on it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:49

    they expire for good reason!

    Yes, because you have to show you have flown enough hours to stay type-rated. I'm not sure why he didn't renew his licence, but if he was proficient enough to fly from Scotland to London, then I think his ability to fly the thing shouldn't be questioned.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:50

    My driving licence has an expiry date on it.

    Sorry, yes they do - you're right. I meant that they expire when you are i your 70's, unlike Pilot licences that only last a few years...

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 10:50

    My driving licence has an expiry date on it.

    That's only age related. Or are the photo one's so the pic can be updated?

    My old paper licence expired when I reached 60 or something!

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 10:51

    Sorry, yes they do - you’re right. I meant that they expire when you are i your 70’s, unlike Pilot licences that only last a few years…

    Photo ones are ten years from date of issue, as well.

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:52

    Compared to losing your drivers license which is usually the result of being a klutz to begin with.

    not exactly true. you can easily trip a couple of speed cameras in the uk by a tiny margin, and that's all it'll take. you're without licence.

    does that mean you're unsafe behind the wheel? probably not.

    does that mean you have the right to carry on driving regardless? no.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 10:53

    ... then I think his ability to fly the thing shouldn’t be questioned.

    If the manouevers described in the article are a direct quote from the AAIB report then the flying behaviour may have been a little maverick

    The last paragraph in the article is quite telling though. It could have a been any number of things that caused it

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:54

    The last paragraph in the article is quite telling though. It could have a been any number of things that caused it

    Exactly. They don't know and therefore it's easier just to blame the pilot.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 10:54

    Photo ones are ten years from date of issue, as well.

    That's more of an administrative expiry though, so your details are updated. You don't have to take another driving test. When a pilot licence expires you have to effectively apply for another and prove you still can fly.

  • Kathi12/02/2009 at 10:54

    My driving licence has an expiry date on it.

    Mine doesn't. We are allowed to drive as long as we want.

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 10:55

    Would it be allright if I joined the new Batracer game?

    Of course! Everyone's welcome :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:55

    Exactly. They don’t know and therefore it’s easier just to blame the pilot.

    the guy entrusted to fly the helicopter? yeah, suppose it is!

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 10:55

    That’s more of an administrative expiry though, so your details are updated. You don’t have to take another driving test. When a pilot licence expires you have to effectively apply for another and prove you still can fly.

    £5k fine if you don't though. I wasn't comparing the two, just pointing it out.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 10:56

    Mine doesn’t. We are allowed to drive as long as we want.

    German or Finnish licence

    (German's get their's at birth don't they :D )

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 10:57

    On a slightly cheerier note related to crashes, a prime example of why the landing gear should be DOWN when approaching the tarmac

    C17 Gear-Up

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 10:58

    On a slightly cheerier note related to crashes, a prime example of why the landing gear should be DOWN when approaching the tarmac

    Can cheery and crash really be used in the same sentence? :)

  • Kathi12/02/2009 at 10:59

    German or Finnish licence

    (German’s get their’s at birth don’t they )

    German, We do :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 10:59

    Can cheery and crash really be used in the same sentence?

    if you're talking about dc, and he found another wall to smack at the roc, then yes :)

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 11:08

    I like seeing Bourdais at the top of a timesheet. It's completely meaningless but still.

    http://directo.thef1.es/tests/

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:09

    Can cheery and crash really be used in the same sentence?

    Only as long as everyone walks away

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:20

    Only as long as everyone walks away

    :D

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:20

    I like seeing Bourdais at the top of a timesheet. It’s completely meaningless but still.

    kinda getting sick of seeing the r29 in that position though.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 11:26

    Basically they’re just blaming Colin for bad airmanship. I guess it’s easy to do when no other cause is apparent.

    If there is nothing obviously mechanical *they can tell if a bulb was on at the time of the incident* then they have to lean towards Pilot error.

    His pilots license having expired as well is just an additional factor to include.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:26

    This made me laugh all over again. Who posted the giggles rap on drop.io?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/giggles-rap-mp3

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:26

    Info and tips for the 1986 F1 BAT game is now on the Wiki :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:27

    This made me laugh all over again. Who posted the giggles rap on drop.io?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/giggles-rap-mp3

    sorry. i was practising with drop.io and needed material :)

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:28

    sorry. i was practising with drop.io and needed material

    :D It's awesome

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:31

    sorry. i was practising with drop.io and needed material

    There's only one person who needs to apologise for that and it's not you :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 11:35

    £5k fine if you don’t though. I wasn’t comparing the two, just pointing it out.

    Yeah thanks for pointing that out. One question, Is that fine for 'driving without licence' or 'not renewing licence'?

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 11:37

    kinda getting sick of seeing the r29 in that position though.

    If anyone can do it, Alonso can.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:38

    Yeah thanks for pointing that out. One question, Is that fine for ‘driving without licence’ or ‘not renewing licence’?

    If you don't renew a driving licence surely it's not a problem as long as you don't drive

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:40

    Non-related - I saw this book on the One Show last night called "How to Talk to Girls". It's written by this 9 year old kid and it does what it says on the cover. I've just bought it on Amazon new for about £7.50. Yes laugh if you will, but I kinda have trouble when it comes to talking to girls. Main reason why I've never had a girlfriend is because of my confidence when around them. So to be fair, I kinda need it :P

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 11:40

    Yeah thanks for pointing that out. One question, Is that fine for ‘driving without licence’ or ‘not renewing licence’?

    You got me there. The DVLA say that you can drive before your licence is returned to you, as long as you're not disqualified. Not sure how it works if you don't renew at all. Don't fancy trying it out either :)

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 11:41

    Yes laugh if you will, but I kinda have trouble when it comes to talking to girls.

    Nothing funny about that. Girls are scary.

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:42

    is there any chance renault are doing their "free practice 3 special" and driving very slowly to cure the tyres, or even just learn about the tyres?

    clutching at straws here.

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:43

    Nothing funny about that. Girls are scary.

    some are, yes.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:43

    Nothing funny about that. Girls are scary.

    Well, if Bernie can do it...

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 11:45

    Well, if Bernie can do it…

    Because it's Bernie's conversational skills that all the ladies love?

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:46

    Because it’s Bernie’s conversational skills that all the ladies love?

    not the hair then?

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:46

    Just realised I'd ordered on the US site not the UK, and cancelled the US order since shipping was gonna cost me $12.49! Have ordered it on the UK site now :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:48

    testing news, bahrain's a bit dusty:

    looks like kubica did a run and they've tried cleaning the track.

  • me12/02/2009 at 11:49

    movable aero from renault:

    can't say there's much else exciting going on there, except they paid less than bmw, toyota or ferrari and have all managed 20+ laps today :)

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:50

    testing news, bahrain’s a bit dusty:

    Well at least it's not as bad as yesterday. That was just ridiculous and dangerous.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 11:50

    Because it’s Bernie’s conversational skills that all the ladies love?

    He talks about his bank balance a lot then :)

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 11:51

    Scott Woodwiss: 12/02/2009 at 11:40

    Non-related - I saw this book on the One Show last night called “How to Talk to Girls”. It’s written by this 9 year old kid and it does what it says on the cover. I’ve just bought it on Amazon new for about £7.50. Yes laugh if you will, but I kinda have trouble when it comes to talking to girls. Main reason why I’ve never had a girlfriend is because of my confidence when around them. So to be fair, I kinda need it

    Awwwwwwwwwww.......

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:51

    He talks about his bank balance a lot then

    Bernie: Hey there

    Girl: Eww, get away from me you old man.

    Bernie: I have billions of pounds, you know.

    Girl: So, you were saying...

    ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 11:53

    Awwwwwwwwwww…….

    LOL. I will say since moving from Peterborough to Norwich my self-confidence has gone way up. Just with girls it's still kinda low. Higher than it was in the past, but not as high as it could be. :P

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 11:54

    Bernie: Hey there Girl: Eww, get away from me you old man. Bernie: I have billions of pounds, you know. Girl: So, you were saying…

    Look at Jean Toad and his missus...

    If power is an aphrodisiac - just how powerfull is he?

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 11:56

    LOL. I will say since moving from Peterborough to Norwich my self-confidence has gone way up. Just with girls it’s still kinda low. Higher than it was in the past, but not as high as it could be.

    I can ask a few friends if they know anyone? ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 12:06

    Look at Jean Toad and his missus…

    LMFAO! Toad :D

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 12:13

    LMFAO! Toad

    It's always been the first thing that sprung to mind when I look at him...

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 12:28

    It’s always been the first thing that sprung to mind when I look at him…

    Definitely

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 12:35

    Flibster: 12/02/2009 at 11:54

    Bernie: Hey there Girl: Eww, get away from me you old man. Bernie: I have billions of pounds, you know. Girl: So, you were saying…

    Look at Jean Toad and his missus…

    If power is an aphrodisiac - just how powerfull is he?

    He controls F1. How much more power could you get? ;)

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 12:36

    Renault profits down 78%

    WE'RE DOOOOOMED!

    On another note, my other-half works for Mercedes-Benz UK. Whilst sales of their grey monstrosities have declined somewhat, overall profits have been buoyed somewhat by sales of Smart cars which have increased 200% or so.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:37

    I wonder, if the things are the way Bernie says they are, why ITV was the only broadcaster having at least some weekend action online ? {F1Wolf - comment #34}

    It may well have been a toe-in-the-water exercise from one of the richer broadcasters. Now that the concept has been proven, hopefully it will proliferate - but it might be a bit slow doing so because as yet there are no proven methods of making such a large investment of this type pay for itself. It may gain a broadcaster lots of brownie points, but if it doesn't pay its way, it's not likely to be popular at this time.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:41

    Strange that Di Resta isn’t doing DTM, considering he was Mercedes’ best driver last year. Does that mean he will become a test driver or FIF1 driver, I wonder? {Gavin Brown - comment #35}

    USF1 seems to have more credence than we initially believed (though I suspect that Peter Windsor isn't putting down his pen or microphone any time soon). As such, it's possible that they may need a test driver. With the potential for unlimited free miles on someone else's expenses form (USF1 wouldn't have to comply with testing limits until 15 December 2009), it may be that McLaren want to loan him out to them for a year to get test experience - especially if there's a 2010 race drive included. If it doesn't work out, McLaren loses little (though Mercedes might be put out that di Resta didn't lead their DTM effort) and there may even be a McLaren race seat available then anyway.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:43

    He’ll attempt to get the GP2 drivers in the F1 cars. It might work - most of them are already test drivers or have experience in an F1 car… {Gavin Brown - comment #36}

    It might. Even more so when you remember that Max now has the FIA-controlled F2 to play with, thus doubling the candidate list...

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 12:44

    On another note, my other-half works for Mercedes-Benz UK. Whilst sales of their grey monstrosities have declined somewhat, overall profits have been buoyed somewhat by sales of Smart cars which have increased 200% or so.

    I'm not surprised by the jump in Smart sales, Small and cheap town cars. I actually really like the Smarts. If I did mainly driving in London, I'd have one no problems, plus you can replace the sewing machine with a bike engine and get it to do wheelies. :D

    I still want a bike engined smart roadster though.

  • Jeremy12/02/2009 at 12:46

    Nothing funny about that. Girls are scary.

    They sure are! What a great challenge :-)

    Seriously though, talk to them like you would your mates. You'll eventually find one that knows lines from Star Wars (or Back To The Future?) and what F1 is.

    Under confident girls are just like under confident boys - they just want to be liked and accepted for who they are. Don't try to be something you're not and don't try to impress them.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:48

    Surely the non-GPDA members? {Maverick - comment #49}

    There are four non-GPDA members, not including Buemi (who might or might not be, depending on whether he joined while being a test driver). So at least one of them hasn't paid up.

    I'm feeling more and more certain that the Ferrari pair (neither of whom is a GPDA member) will have paid, simply because Ferrari is close enough to the FIA to have paid it automatically. Massa and Raikkonen might not even have known it was paid at this moment in time because it is entirely plausible that Ferrari is a teams that pays automatically and simply offers that much less money to its drivers in salary.

    So was it Hamilton or Sutil who held out? Or was Buemi the other one who paid? Or if all three of them are holding out, which GPDA member broke ranks?

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:53

    Better than the BBC’s headline for the same story: ‘McRae flying license had expired‘

    Like that was a major factor in the accident? {Dank - comment #55}

    The point there is that if McRae had survived the accident, he would have been held liable and probably prosecuted even though it is not clear whether he caused the accident beyond all reasonable doubt. Even if the fine was simply for having a lack of paperwork rather than for culpability, it would have been a dent on his reputation.

    The licence or lack thereof was not a factor in the accident. The gap in understanding how to execute the manuever that resulted in the accident that may or may not have ensued from the lack of a licence might have been a major factor.

    Unfortunately, everyone who was in the helicopter died, so we'll never get a full account of what happened up there. :( Technology and crash investigation procedures, however sophisticated, can only tell us so much.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 12:55

    Would it be allright if I joined the new Batracer game? {Al - comment #57

    Of course! Good to have you in the game :)

  • Dank12/02/2009 at 12:55

    Has the Renault been eating pies?

    http://www.f1today.nl/foto/5568/

  • Maverick12/02/2009 at 12:55

    So was it Hamilton or Sutil who held out? Or was Buemi the other one who paid? Or if all three of them are holding out, which GPDA member broke ranks?

    My feeling is that if the three were GPDA members Max would have let the names leak out through the press by now. Instead, by not leaking them, the GPDA are lefting wondering if it is one (or three) of them.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 12:58

    Dank: 12/02/2009 at 12:55

    Has the Renault been eating pies?

    http://www.f1today.nl/foto/5568/

    Uglier by the day....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 12:59

    Alianora:

    Better than the BBC’s headline for the same story: ‘McRae flying license had expired‘

    Like that was a major factor in the accident? {Dank - comment #55}

    The point there is that if McRae had survived the accident, he would have been held liable and probably prosecuted even though it is not clear whether he caused the accident beyond all reasonable doubt. Even if the fine was simply for having a lack of paperwork rather than for culpability, it would have been a dent on his reputation.

    The licence or lack thereof was not a factor in the accident. The gap in understanding how to execute the manuever that resulted in the accident that may or may not have ensued from the lack of a licence might have been a major factor.

    Unfortunately, everyone who was in the helicopter died, so we’ll never get a full account of what happened up there. :( Technology and crash investigation procedures, however sophisticated, can only tell us so much.

    I wish I could have said it like that. We basically have no idea what happened - and even the best pilots make mistakes :-(

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 13:02

    Bit different though. My understanding is his helicopter license expired, not that he was incompetent to fly the thing. Compared to losing your drivers license which is usually the result of being a klutz to begin with. {Dank - comment #64}

    Every UK driving licence expires. It's just that they don't necessarily bother putting the date on the most common type because it is assumed that the holder knows it expires on reaching 70 (and the DVLA automatically sends out forms nearer the time in case the holder forgets).

    Some licences, even to below-70s, have an earlier expiry date. The most common being for people who have a provisional driving licence (they must renew every two years if they do not earn a standard licence in that timeframe) and people with disabilities. If I ever get a driving licence for the road, I'll have to renew it every three years because of my disability, though some disabilities require renewal every year or two years.

    If you are over 70, you are assumed to be suspectible to gradual-onset difficulties in driving and therefore can only hold a licence for three years before renewal.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 13:07

    Photo ones are ten years from date of issue, as well. {Gavin Brown - comment #74}

    Photo ones have an earlier expiry date because of the photo. It's not really because there is an expectation that your driving is likely to deteriorate and you are allowed to self-assess your driving capacity and medical condition - unless you have reached one of the other trigger points for getting a new licence.

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:09

    a rather unfortunate position to snap the car:

    http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/6bknjswc3.jpg

  • Maverick12/02/2009 at 13:14

    Has the Renault been eating pies?

    Just been reading that the R29 is Renault's lightest ever car.

    Pat Symonds: "In order to reduce the weight, we had to redefine the standards on the strength requirements of the car's structural components."

    Anyone know if Renault have passed the crash tests yet?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 13:21

    a rather unfortunate position to snap the car:

    You'd think they would've flipped the image at least

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 13:24

    Photo ones are ten years from date of issue, as well. {Gavin Brown - comment #74}

    I said that, not Gavin.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:32

    a rather unfortunate position to snap the car:

    Wow... The Red Bull has a really large shadow!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:33

    Pat Symonds: “In order to reduce the weight, we had to redefine the standards on the strength requirements of the car’s structural components.”

    Sounds like Colin Chapman's "add lightness" mantra was applied here. His cars were fragile too.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:34

    I said that, not Gavin.

    That you did. I have been mistakenly attributed for a few quotes recently!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:37

    Grandprix.com is reporting that Senna has signed with Brackley F1

    The team is expected to use Mercedes-Benz engines and Senna will be partnered by Jenson Button. Backing for the team - the name of which has yet to be announced - is expected to come from Petrobras and probably one or two of Senna's personal sponsors.

    It doesn't name it's sources - how credible is grandprix.com?

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:40

    It doesn’t name it’s sources - how credible is grandprix.com?

    as credible as it gets.

    a little to pro-mclaren maybe, and oddly they seem to have personal issues with flav/renault. but they're right more often than they're wrong.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 13:41

    *sigh*

    I'd prefer Barrichello and Senna to having Button.

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:42

    if true, it's v.interesting that they have backing from bernie.

    2009 fan car anyone?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 13:45

    Grandprix.com is reporting that Senna has signed with Brackley F1

    I found this bit interesting

    It is believed that the majority of the money to run the team will be coming from Honda itself as it is cheaper to pay to keep the team alive than it is to lay off all the staff

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:45

    if true, it’s v.interesting that they have backing from bernie.

    It sounds like a very complicated arrangement. Money from Bernie? Money from Honda? Engines from Mercedes?

    That's a lot of fingers in different pies I reckon. As long as they turn up in Melbourne and give Button a drive then it's all good for now.

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 13:46

    Grandprix.com is reporting that Senna has signed with Brackley F1

    A jewellery shop near here has had a pic of Jense in the window for a couple of years, advertising a watch. They just got round to updating the picture from BAR uniform to EarthDreams colours. I wonder when they'll realise things have changed again.

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:47

    It sounds like a very complicated arrangement. Money from Bernie? Money from Honda? Engines from Mercedes?

    who does he pay if they do well in the championship :)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 13:47

    ...I wonder when they’ll realise things have changed again.

    Probably when he retires :D

  • mJohnHurt12/02/2009 at 13:47

    This is kind of random, but related to the KERS discussion in your last podcast, an article about an MIT team developing a recovery system based on shock absorbers just popped up on slashdot:

    http://techfragments.com/news/415/Tech/MIT_Team_Creates_Shock_That_Recharges_Your_Car.html

    I'm not sure about the energy gain for the trouble though:

    "In their testing so far, the students found that in a 6-shock heavy truck, each shock absorber could generate up to an average of 1 kW on a standard road."

    One the one hand an F1 car is much lighter than a "heavey truck", but they get slammed around a lot more. They mentioned heavier road cars generate more energy via shocks, so it seems like 1kW is a best-result right now. I can't remember the numbers the F1 guts were getting but isn't it more on the order of 40kW?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 13:48

    who does he pay if they do well in the championship

    I bet he negotiates a 'special reward deal' with them

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:48

    I bet he negotiates a ’special reward deal’ with them

    where might they sit in the pitlane?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 13:49

    where might they sit in the pitlane?

    Wherever they want (meaning Bernie)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 13:52

    where might they sit in the pitlane?

    Umm, would they not just take Honda's place (seeing as they bought their gridslots)?

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 13:59

    Yeah thanks for pointing that out. One question, Is that fine for ‘driving without licence’ or ‘not renewing licence’? {Gavin Brown - comment #94

    I believe it's 'driving without licence' (because it covers people who never tried to get a licence and people with the wrong licence as well as people who haven't renewed), but don't quote me on that.

  • me12/02/2009 at 13:59

    Umm, would they not just take Honda’s place (seeing as they bought their gridslots)?

    yeah. i was only joking after all of bernie's faffing around with mclaren last year.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 14:01

    yeah. i was only joking after all of bernie’s faffing around with mclaren last year.

    Too subtle for me :-( That was a bit silly what happened with Mclaren though. Wasn't that Max's idea though?

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:02

    Too subtle for me That was a bit silly what happened with Mclaren though. Wasn’t that Max’s idea though?

    nope. max wanted to see mclaren last and he wanted them to stay there. it was all bernie.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 14:04

    nope. max wanted to see mclaren last and he wanted them to stay there. it was all bernie.

    Ah. So Bernie was on the side of the Mack? Didn't know that!

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:04

    One the one hand an F1 car is much lighter than a “heavey truck”, but they get slammed around a lot more.

    the biggest problem the fia faces in this area, is they've recently banned tuned mass dampers.

    now they've already gone back on the banning of mclaren's early kers system, so maybe they could do the same. but all of this technology is untapped potential in need of more r&d. formula 1 is perfectly placed to help if it so wishes.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:04

    You’ll eventually find one that knows lines from Star Wars (or Back To The Future?) and what F1 is. {Jeremy - comment #124}

    Speaking as a woman who knows lines from Star Wars and what F1 is, I can underline this with a certain authority. Most of us don't mean to be scary...

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:05

    Ah. So Bernie was on the side of the Mack? Didn’t know that!

    always. he turned up at last years launch and stuck up for the team as often as was necessary.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:09

    Has the Renault been eating pies? {Dank - comment #128

    Well, there is a minimum bodywork requirement for certain parts of the car. But the nose isn't affected by them, so I can only assume Renault has stuffed a KERS system or something in the nose.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:12

    I said that, not Gavin. {Christine - comment #137}

    Sorry about the mistake in attribution :blush:

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:13

    Sorry about the mistake in attribution :blush:

    with the link, plus the comment number, you probs don't need to add a name too?

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:14

    I wonder, if the things are the way Bernie says they are, why ITV was the only broadcaster having at least some weekend action online ?

    It is not the TV companies fault that the archive is not available online. It is not the TV companies fault that fans can't post their own videos. As for routine additional TV coverage on the net who writes the contracts the TV companies sign? Bernie can give them the option of exploiting the internet for themselves or taking a central service from FOM. Problem solved.

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:14

    113 laps for alonso thus far. still last, but double the laps of any single 2009 runner.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:15

    Grandprix.com is reporting that Senna has signed with Brackley F1 {Gavin Brown (and it definitely is him this time!) - comment #141}

    That's a good sign if true. It means that the financial situation has stabilised enough for the team to attend to less pressing matters.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:15

    Being a test driver these days isn’t really a step up is it?

    It is if it is for USF1 since they have no testing restrictions.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:18

    A jewellery shop near here has had a pic of Jense in the window for a couple of years, advertising a watch. They just got round to updating the picture from BAR uniform to EarthDreams colours. I wonder when they’ll realise things have changed again. {Christine - comment #147}

    Oh dear! That's worse than the Superleague bus advert story. I can just imagine Jenson doing a ex-Honda ad in 2011, just in time for the team to announce it's got a new sponsor and therefore changing the colour scheme completely - or worse still Jenson dropping the watch endorsement entirely beforehand...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 14:18

    It is if it is for USF1 since they have no testing restrictions.

    You're thinking that they'll do what Toyota did in 2001, right?

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:20

    I can’t remember the numbers the F1 guts were getting but isn’t it more on the order of 40kW {mJohnHurt - comment #150}

    40kW is the maximum allowed in 2009 and there's already talk of increasing that in the next couple of years, so I think you're right.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:22

    with the link, plus the comment number, you probs don’t need to add a name too? {Comment #165}

    OK, I'll do that in future if it's fine with you. Less typing ;)

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:24

    It is not the TV companies fault that the archive is not available online. It is not the TV companies fault that fans can’t post their own videos. As for routine additional TV coverage on the net who writes the contracts the TV companies sign? Bernie can give them the option of exploiting the internet for themselves or taking a central service from FOM. Problem solved. {Comment #166

    Now that's talking sense :D

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:24

    Adrian Newey set to step down in the next couple of years according to Autosport today. Looking to leave his day-to-day role and instead become a consultant at the team.

    He has been threatening to do this for years. I haven't read the story but after about three years at McLaren he wanted to quit to design an America's Cup yacht. Imagine having the ability to produce great F1 cars and make millions from it and instead wanting to draw boats. Of course it could be contracts time again. It usually is when he starts talking about such things. Anyone know when his is due to be renewed.

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:25

    OK, I’ll do that in future if it’s fine with you.

    just followed that link and it took me to the original comment and told me time / name. perfect i'd say.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 14:25

    Most of us don’t mean to be scary…

    So it just happens naturally then? ;)

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:25

    You’re thinking that they’ll do what Toyota did in 2001, right? {Comment #171}

    That's the general idea, though I don't think they'll get as much running as Toyota because they don't have a car yet.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:27

    So it just happens naturally then? {Comment 177}

    In a word? Yes!

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:28

    Basically they’re just blaming Colin for bad airmanship. I guess it’s easy to do when no other cause is apparent.

    Jimmy McRae said at the time that he knew as soon as he saw Colin approach that he had a problem because he was not where he would normally be on that approach. But it is funny how often a dead pilot is to blame. It is like those poor sods who crashed the Chinook when everyone knew the problems that thing had.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 14:28

    I haven’t read the story but after about three years at McLaren [Newey] wanted to quit to design an America’s Cup yacht. Imagine having the ability to produce great F1 cars and make millions from it and instead wanting to draw boats.

    America's cup yachts are as complicated and challenging to design as an F1 car, I've been told. Certainly a great accomplishment to be able to do both very well...

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:28

    Like that was a major factor in the accident?

    It was known within days that his license had expired so anyone reporting that as news is just being a bit gmm about it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)12/02/2009 at 14:29

    Jimmy McRae said at the time that he knew as soon as he saw Colin approach that he had a problem because he was not where he would normally be on that approach. But it is funny how often a dead pilot is to blame. It is like those poor sods who crashed the Chinook when everyone knew the problems that thing had.

    That's what I was trying to say. They don't know what happened, so he must be to blame. It doesn't sound right to me.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:32

    Would it be allright if I joined the new Batracer game?

    Absolutely just go to te game and sign up

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:37

    This made me laugh all over again. Who posted the giggles rap on drop.io? http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/giggles-rap-mp3

    I wonder if he has a rap planned for the new season. I only asked.

  • Maverick12/02/2009 at 14:38

    Imagine having the ability to produce great F1 cars and make millions from it and instead wanting to draw boats.

    ...and make millions from it. Americas Cup entrants spend comparable budgets to F1.

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:42

    It was known within days that his license had expired so anyone reporting that as news is just being a bit gmm about it.

    sorry. but repeating a fact is not be anything like GMM. in fact it's the exact opposite.

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:42

    That’s what I was trying to say. They don’t know what happened, so he must be to blame. It doesn’t sound right to me. {Comment #183

    To be fair, the inquiry did not determine a cause, so all this talk of bad airmanship is based on suspicions. If a definite target of blame could be determined, then they would have blamed someone or something.

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:44

    I wonder if he has a rap planned for the new season. I only asked.

    debut album?

  • Alianora La Canta12/02/2009 at 14:44

    sorry. but repeating a fact is not be anything like GMM. in fact it’s the exact opposite. {Comment #187

    I'd liken it more to Yahoo!'s reporting style - where they are generally accurate but every so often post old stories with the same excitement as new ones, apparently unaware that they posted the same story from a different source a week beforehand...

  • me12/02/2009 at 14:47

    I’d liken it more to Yahoo!’s reporting style - where they are generally accurate but every so often post old stories with the same excitement as new ones, apparently unaware that they posted the same story from a different source a week beforehand…

    i just don't see it in this case. the bbc highlighted what is an important part of the story in their title. and autosport chose not to.

    given that the autosport audience is likely to side with a racing driver, that's probably a wise choice, but it doesn't make the bbc article any less factually correct does it?

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:53

    You’re thinking that they’ll do what Toyota did in 2001, right?

    They have to do something like that to keep sponsors happy, to drill the team etc.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 14:55

    sorry. but repeating a fact is not be anything like GMM. in fact it’s the exact opposite.

    They are taking something someone else has already posted and made a story out of it with a sensationalis headline. The fact it happens to be true is just a fluke.

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:02

    They are taking something someone else has already posted and made a story out of it with a sensationalis headline. The fact it happens to be true is just a fluke.

    balls.

    sounds to me like you're letting your appreciation for a racing driver get in the way of basic common sense.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 15:06

    sounds to me like you’re letting your appreciation for a racing driver get in the way of basic common sense.

    The only point I am making is that we knew within days of theaccident that his license was out of date so why make a big headline out of it after all this time. It would be like Autosport this week having a headline saying kimi wins 2007 championship. Old news.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 15:07

    It was known within days that his license had expired so anyone reporting that as news is just being a bit gmm about it.

    It's being mentioned in the news because the AAIB report points it out. I do agree however that too much emphasis is being placed on it

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:09

    It’s being mentioned in the news because the AAIB report points it out. I do agree however that too much emphasis is being placed on it

    fair enough. i didn't know it, or if i did i don't remember.

    further reaction: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7885487.stm

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:12

    something from the mole on the licence debate:

    "In any case, there is not likely to be much sympathy for the drivers. They are the wrong people to claim poverty. They don't give a great deal back to the sport. I hear that this is going to change because the FIA is going to insist on them doing more to promote the World Championship."

    linkage: http://www.grandprix.com/mole/mole21180.html

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 15:17

    fair enough. i didn’t know it, or if i did i don’t remember.

    I didn't know either. But I'm not defending BBC's headlines. Woman.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 15:18

    further reaction: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7885487.stm

    At the foot of the article (that's twice today the last paragraph has been the most telling) it points out that Colin had taken annual proficiency tests and that fact that he wasn't issued a new European EASA licence to replace his CAA one was more of a bureaucracy error than a lack of care on his part IMHO

    "We note that the AAIB recognise that the CAA Authorised Examiner who conducted Colin's Licence Proficiency Checks (LPCs) in March 2005 and March 2006 did not check the pilot's licence on either occasion, being under the impression that he had been issued with a lifetime validity licence, as was Colin."

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:19

    I didn’t know either. But I’m not defending BBC’s headlines. Woman.

    haha! good point. they're not blameless, but they're not gmm either.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 15:20

    I didn’t know either. But I’m not defending BBC’s headlines. Woman.

    Whilst the BBC News website is still generally the No.1 overall news site for me, standards have slipped in the last couple of years. Poor grammar, spelling, etc were a lot rarer in the past

  • Stuart C12/02/2009 at 15:46

    I can only assume Renault has stuffed a KERS system or something in the nose.

    I still think Granny's applecatcher knickers blew off the washing line and somehow ended up in the windtunnel...

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 15:47

    Afternoon all... Ah the Giggles Rap has resurfaced. Thanks Me! :)

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 15:48

    Aaaah crap... MORE snow! :(

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:49

    steven brought this up, after graham sent us his pics from the recent renault sraightline test. on the car, there was a yellow square beneath the sidepod and from this angle, you can see it's actually a hole.

    any guesses as to what it might do?

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:50

    Afternoon all… Ah the Giggles Rap has resurfaced. Thanks Me!

    twas an accident, honest.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 15:51

    any guesses as to what it might do?

    IR sensors for tyre temperature?

  • me12/02/2009 at 15:53

    IR sensors for tyre temperature?

    wow. hadn't considered that.

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 16:00

    twas an accident, honest.

    Just found it funny to have not been about very much for a couple of days and to still be being talked about. Don't mind at all!

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 16:01

    Aaaah crap… MORE snow!

    Oh yeah!

  • RG12/02/2009 at 16:02

    Damn this snow, so bloomin annoying.

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:06

    Me: I've just reveived an invite from the IET about a KERS lecture, that says its open to the public. Do you have an email addy that I can forward the invite to? I smell a potential sidepodbash.

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 16:10

    Went up the library to collect my reserved copy of The Science of Formula 1 Design by David Tremayne. It's only up to 2006 but some of the detailed drawings and information is fascinating.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:12

    Kris: 12/02/2009 at 16:06

    Me: I’ve just reveived an invite from the IET about a KERS lecture, that says its open to the public. Do you have an email addy that I can forward the invite to? I smell a potential sidepodbash.

    Where about is it being held?

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:12

    Me: I’ve just reveived an invite from the IET about a KERS lecture, that says its open to the public. Do you have an email addy that I can forward the invite to? I smell a potential sidepodbash.

    [email protected]

    also you can message me on wiki. which i hadn't realised, but seems like a cool idea.

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:15

    IET HQ, London (which as it happens is a pain for me, but ho hum...)

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:15

    Flibster: 12/02/2009 at 16:12

    Kris: 12/02/2009 at 16:06

    Me: I’ve just reveived an invite from the IET about a KERS lecture, that says its open to the public. Do you have an email addy that I can forward the invite to? I smell a potential sidepodbash.

    Where about is it being held?

    Never mind - found it. Hmmm. *checks PDA*

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:15

    also you can message me on wiki. which i hadn’t realised, but seems like a cool idea.

    easier to forward an email ;) - which I just did...

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:18

    easier to forward an email - which I just did…

    got it cheers. should probably fine to make that, you thinking of doing dinner too?

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 16:19

    got it cheers. should probably fine to make that, you thinking of doing dinner too?

    That sounds awfully tempting.

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:20

    That sounds awfully tempting.

    Im checking trains as we speak

  • RG12/02/2009 at 16:21

    Exactly. They don’t know and therefore it’s easier just to blame the pilot.

    From what I know of watching endless Air Crash Investigation, there is 8/10 something that the pilot could have done better to avoid a crash.

    There’s only one person who needs to apologise for that and it’s not you

    Yeah, I know. Sorry.

    testing news, bahrain’s a bit dusty:

    That's why you don't do races in the desert.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:21

    Just dropped the car off for it’s MOT

    Feel a bit like Flav putting a fresh Renault ‘09 in for a crash test

    This just in: Team Bassano have had their car validated for the next 12 months. Does that make it better than a Renault?

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:21

    got it cheers. should probably fine to make that, you thinking of doing dinner too?

    I wouldn't do the dinner, but that because I can meet up with the other half and eat out at somewhere I'll really enjoy. :D

    S&M Cafe maybe.

  • RG12/02/2009 at 16:24

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73246

    SAAAAAAAATOOOOOO!!!!

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:26

    RG: 12/02/2009 at 16:24

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73246

    SAAAAAAAATOOOOOO!!!!

    Hmmm... I clicked on the link and my browser crashed? Definatly Sato's influence there.

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 16:26

    Hmmm… I clicked on the link and my browser crashed? Definatly Sato’s influence there.

    :)

  • Jackie12/02/2009 at 16:26

    Hmmm… I clicked on the link and my browser crashed? Definatly Sato’s influence there.

    :D

  • RG12/02/2009 at 16:27

    Hmmm… I clicked on the link and my browser crashed? Definatly Sato’s influence there.

    ;)

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:28

    SAAAAAAAATOOOOOO!!!!

    Yay! That means he'll be generally around, and occaisionally on TV if it comes off. Perhaps he might even get a race if a nasty bout of flu goes round.

  • RG12/02/2009 at 16:29

    Yay! That means he’ll be generally around, and occaisionally on TV if it comes off. Perhaps he might even get a race if a nasty bout of flu goes round.

    Flu you say...

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:32

    IET Kers lecture

    It's on Wed 25th Feb at 18:30, Savoy Place, London

    Who fancies it?

    Event poster: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/iet-kers-poster-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:34

    Buggeration!

    IET lecture poster drop.io link comment moderated.

    I know it'll be fixed but then won't appear in the doohickey as a new comment. I don't think it likes more than one link in a post

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:35

    I know it’ll be fixed but then won’t appear in the doohickey as a new comment. I don’t think it likes more than one link in a post

    try posting again with one link?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:35

    I post the details again for the non-refreshers :)

    IET Kers lecture

    It’s on Wed 25th Feb at 18:30, Savoy Place, London

    Who fancies it?

    (links to event in ye olde comments due moderation)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:36
  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:36

    IET Kers poster

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/iet-kers-poster-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:37

    try posting again with one link?

    Good idea, worked a treat. Sometimes I miss the simplest solutions

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:38

    I post the details again for the non-refreshers

    IET Kers lecture

    It’s on Wed 25th Feb at 18:30, Savoy Place, London

    It looks like I need a hotel if I'm going to manage it (last train back to lancaster just 30 mins after lecture: too risky) and Im just searching the office for a willing travel companion

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:41

    IET Kers poster

    I updated Flash on the 'puter the other day so this could be me but the doohickey/drop.io pop-up didn't work for me on this link.

    Anyone else?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:44

    IR sensors for tyre temperature?

    Nice idea, I'm wondering if it's a window rather than a hole. A square hole would cause more aero problems than a rounded one

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:45

    I updated Flash on the ‘puter the other day so this could be me but the doohickey/drop.io pop-up didn’t work for me on this link.

    don't worry, am aware of it. i think the drop api changed, need to look into it. a bit annoying, but don't think anything changed here.

    now the new mini-series is running, am coding every night. fixes are pending.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:45

    I'm booked in for the lecture, but not hte meal.

    I'll be easy to spot. Vulcan to the Sky black fleece and probably a Team Lotus cap. :D

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:45

    I’m booked in for the lecture, but not hte meal.

    anyone planning on eating?

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:46

    anyone planning on eating?

    Eating is cheating :D

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:46

    Eating is cheating

    Maybe drinks and a bite after though?

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 16:47

    anyone planning on eating?

    I would if others were...

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:47

    If there are several of us there we might want to find food ourselves

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:47

    now the new mini-series is running, am coding every night. fixes are pending.

    That list just gets bigger, you need an intern :D

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:48

    If there are several of us there we might want to find food ourselves

    I'd be up for that

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:51

    Kris: 12/02/2009 at 16:47

    If there are several of us there we might want to find food ourselves

    Yup.

    What sort of food is everyone into?

    There's the S&M Cafe's? *S&M stands for Sausage and mash - not for Max's favourite hobby*

    Gormet Burger Kitchen?

    If all else fails TGI Fridays?

    It'd be too late to book for Gaucho *but thats seriously expensive anyway*

    Depends if we have any abnormal people... sorry.. veggies. ;)

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:51

    That list just gets bigger, you need an intern

    several :)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:52

    What sort of food is everyone into?

    Not fussed, more concerned about Guinness on tap :D

    (Though that's not a deal breaker)

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:53

    What sort of food is everyone into?

    anything apart from pizza hut ;)

  • me12/02/2009 at 16:54

    Not fussed, more concerned about Guinness on tap

    (Though that’s not a deal breaker)

    same here. not sure if christine's planning on coming (she may have had more kers than she can handle). will book this evening, minus food.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:55

    Ha ha, only The Institution of Engineering and Technology website would say "password does not contain two integers"

    What wrong with, must contain at least two numbers?

    anything apart from pizza hut

    Agreed

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 16:55

    Don't know much about the alcohol situation in most places. Stopped drinking years ago.

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 16:55

    same here. not sure if christine’s planning on coming (she may have had more kers than she can handle). will book this evening, minus food.

    Ive just booked myself + 1 in, +1 is teaching first years at the moment so I cant get hold of him.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 16:59

    same here. not sure if christine’s planning on coming (she may have had more kers than she can handle). will book this evening, minus food.

    Booked meself just now

    Company name (for name badge): Sidepodcast

    How did you hear of us: www.sidepodcast.com :D

  • me12/02/2009 at 17:00

    Company name (for name badge): Sidepodcast

    How did you hear of us: http://www.sidepodcast.com

    wow!

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:01

    wow!

    Technical we could pass ourselves off as researchers & reporters for the site - maybe an interview potential here if they don't bore us silly

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 17:04

    I may have put www.sidepodcast.com down for the Where did you hear of us. ;)

  • me12/02/2009 at 17:04

    Technical we could pass ourselves off as researchers & reporters for the site - maybe an interview potential here if they don’t bore us silly

    that'd just make us wannabe journalists though. we're trying our v.best avoid that. f1 fans through and through :)

    am quite impressed with the number of people interested in a kers talk though.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:05

    that’d just make us wannabe journalists though. we’re trying our v.best avoid that. f1 fans through and through

    No, I think that just makes us blaggers :D

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:06

    am quite impressed with the number of people interested in a kers talk though.

    SidepodTourGroup?

  • me12/02/2009 at 17:08

    I may have put http://www.sidepodcast.com down for the Where did you hear of us.

    am gonna put "email from kris" ;)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:09

    Don’t know much about the alcohol situation in most places. Stopped drinking years ago.

    Strand candidates Beer in the evening, The Strand

    Pitcher & Piano may be ok

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 17:10

    am gonna put “email from kris”

    Woo!

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:14

    Pitcher & Piano may be ok

    Or maybe not, having read the reviews :)

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:18

    Maybe Vista is better than I thought. My e-mail just put a message from itv-f1 about a Mark Hughes item in the junk folder.

  • Kris12/02/2009 at 17:18

    is it sad that the cheapest way home is to get a bus to luton airport, fly to dublin with eireflot, then fly to manchester a few hours later, and get a train ticket for the last hour of the journey from there?

    total cost is approx £8, about half the cost of the train :(

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 17:20

    Maybe Vista is better than I thought. My e-mail just put a message from itv-f1 about a Mark Hughes item in the junk folder.

    That would be Outlook's work, which is under Microsoft Office. Completely different banana to Vista. :D

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:22

    That would be Outlook’s work, which is under Microsoft Office. Completely different banana to Vista.

    Outlook is no more this is Windows Mail

  • RG12/02/2009 at 17:22

    That would be Outlook’s work, which is under Microsoft Office. Completely different banana to Vista.

    Vista's trying to install updates, which I think were installed 2 days ago.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 17:24

    Kris: 12/02/2009 at 17:18

    is it sad that the cheapest way home is to get a bus to luton airport, fly to dublin with eireflot, then fly to manchester a few hours later, and get a train ticket for the last hour of the journey from there?

    total cost is approx £8, about half the cost of the train

    What the hell?!?

    Rediculous!

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:25

    Outlook is no more this is Windows Mail

    This is, finally, a sensible move from Microsoft. Windows Mail is what happened to Outlook Express.

    The confusion between two very different products was always very annoying.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 17:26

    The confusion between two very different products was always very annoying.

    I never saw much difference between Outlook and Outlook Express. What's the difference?

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:30

    I never saw much difference between Outlook and Outlook Express. What’s the difference?

    Exactly! Outlook was IMAP through and through with add in support for POP3 and things. Outlook Express was just a mail client.

    The main difference is that Outlook is designed to sit on a office network and all of the messages are held on that computer not your local machine. It could do the remote thing but that wasn't the plan.

    Outlook Express was designed to hold the messages locally and go and fetch new messages and keep them in the local database.

    It doesn't sound like much but it's quite different under the bonnet.

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 17:32

    It doesn’t sound like much but it’s quite different under the bonnet.

    Ahhh. Now you make sense.

    Mind you, most of us keep our Outlook mail on the local machine anyway. ;)

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:33

    Exactly! Outlook was IMAP through and through with add in support for POP3 and things. Outlook Express was just a mail client.

    MAPI of course I mean not IMAP. They both do IMAP.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:34

    Giggles, are you up for the SidepodTourGroup lecture?

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:34

    Mind you, most of us keep our Outlook mail on the local machine anyway.

    Not in my office you don't!

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 17:34

    Footage from today's action from Jerez

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YUzgEEfkh4

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 17:34

    Can you un-moderate me please

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:35

    Not in my office you don’t!

    Prefer Lotus Notes myself

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:35

    Giggles, are you up for the SidepodTourGroup lecture?

    I have signed up for my ticket!

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:36

    Prefer Lotus Notes myself

    Not Goats Bassano... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    ooooooooooooo

    ahem.

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Sorry I just had a bad code flashback ;)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:39

    Not Goats Bassano…

    Goats?

    I prefer it due to it's unMicrosoftness

    (and have done before I became a Mac head)

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:39

    I never saw much difference between Outlook and Outlook Express. What’s the difference?

    The main difference was Outlook Express only did mail where Outlook had a calendar, contacts etc

  • Journeyer12/02/2009 at 17:39

    Not Goats Bassano... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    ooooooooooooo

    Your 'no' was off the chain!

    And off the window... :P

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:40

    The main difference was Outlook Express only did mail where Outlook had a calendar, contacts etc

    That's what I thought too (That and the fact that I understood little of Giggles' tech explanation)

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:44

    I prefer it due to it’s unMicrosoftness

    (and have done before I became a Mac head)

    Well. It was way ahead for it's time, but yeah... I have had some very bad experiences with it over the years.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 17:45

    Alex Andronov: 12/02/2009 at 17:36

    Not Goats Bassano... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    ooooooooooooo

    ahem.

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Sorry I just had a bad code flashback ;)

    I'm with you Alex.

    Vile application that should have been killed, encased in concrete and dumped at sea many years ago.

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:45

    The main difference was Outlook Express only did mail where Outlook had a calendar, contacts etc

    Oh yeah that too ;)

    They are written from the ground up by completely different development teams and don't share a code base. That's kind of what I was trying to say.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:45

    That’s what I thought too (That and the fact that I understood little of Giggles’ tech explanation)

    It went over my head as well so I thought I would stick to what I am good at and state the bleedin' obvious. It had an organiser so its different.

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:45

    I’m with you Alex.

    Vile application that should have been killed, encased in concrete and dumped at sea many years ago.

    Yes. And then had a mountain built on top.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:47

    Yes. And then had a mountain built on top.

    Notes 7 is fine, from a users point of view anyway

  • Alex Andronov12/02/2009 at 17:49

    Notes 7 is fine, from a users point of view anyway

    Well users complained about quite a lot of things still with 7 like no CSS support (e-mails look rubbish) and I think it still wasn't until 8 that you could have out of office replies be sent at anything other than 2am.

    The thing is the idea behind Notes is much better than the idea behind exchange... It just has always caused me grief. But maybe that's the side of the fence I sit on.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 17:50

    On a completely separate note - anyone read Watchmen and looking forward to the film next month? I may have to go to the IMAX for that one

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:55

    http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=37013

    Good news Bernie has even more money. CVC have given him $100million worth of shares for $0.5 million.

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 17:56

    http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=37014

    Peter Windsor goes public on USF1

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 17:56

    Watchman is finally being released? Oh yeah, thats an IMAX visit for that one.

    After watching Blade Runner and The Dark Knight there I'm going there as much as possible.

  • Dom12/02/2009 at 17:59

    Info and tips for the 1986 F1 BAT game is now on the Wiki

    Cheers Scott. :)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 18:00

    Watchman is finally being released? Oh yeah, thats an IMAX visit for that one.

    Mar 6th worldwide I think. I saw Dark Knight there too and was most impressed

    CVC have given him $100million worth of shares for $0.5 million.

    Only Bernie could get a deal like that, he'll bargain his way out of hell that one

  • Kathi12/02/2009 at 18:17

    Apparently three drivers have paid up the fee for their superlicence, despite ongoing dramas between the FIA and the GPDA. So, who was it? Who has crossed the picket line?

    Vettel

  • Kathi12/02/2009 at 18:19

    Vettel

    at least Motosport Magazin think so.

  • Dom12/02/2009 at 18:20

    Vettel

    Probably Buemi too. He's not gonna be wanting to risk his involvement.

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 18:23

    Scott Woodwiss: 12/02/2009 at 09:41

    Another shameless plug for thr BAT 1986 game: http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&36956

    Password: bourdais

    Current line-ups:

    Williams: Scott Woodwiss & Gavin Brown McLaren: Dank and Dom Lotus: Steven Roy and Selidor (Reigning SPC BAT champion) Minardi: Alianora La Canta and R.G Ligier: Alenyaa

    Available cars:

    1x Ligier 2x Ferraris 2x Tyrrells 2x Brabhams 2x Benettons 2x Arrows 2x Haas Lolas 2x Zakspeeds 2x Osellas 2x AGS

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 18:27

    Have we discussed this yet?

    http://www.mtvindia.com/fastandgorgeous/

  • RG12/02/2009 at 18:29

    Have we discussed this yet?

    Initial apologies to Adrian Sutil for thinking that he was the girl

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 18:29

    Have we discussed this yet?

    Ooh, don't think so but anything that mentions 20 hot women will compete in a race gets my attention :)

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 18:30

    Ooh, don’t think so but anything that mentions 20 hot women will compete in a race gets my attention

    Hmm.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 18:30

    Christine: 12/02/2009 at 18:27

    Have we discussed this yet?

    http://www.mtvindia.com/fastandgorgeous/

    No, but lets... ;)

    Anything like the Red Bull Formula Una girls?

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 18:30

    Ooh, don’t think so but anything that mentions 20 hot women will compete in a race gets my attention

    Lets hope it involves pogo sticks. ;)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 18:32

    Hmm.

    Reminds me of a Friend's line from Chandler:

    Can open, worms - everywhere!

  • Christine12/02/2009 at 18:32

    Reminds me of a Friend’s line from Chandler:

    Can open, worms - everywhere!

    :D

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 18:33

    Reminds me of a Friend’s line from Chandler: Can open, worms - everywhere!

    lets not go backwards a few lines from that point as much innuendo may appear.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 18:42

    Right, dinner time.

    It's pasta (though not Chicken Pesto) so there may be some Frop.io'ing later

  • me12/02/2009 at 18:47

    Footage from today’s action from Jerez

    thanks scott.

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 18:51

    thanks scott.

    s'alright ;)

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 19:01

    The right exhaust pipe hole is definitely bigger than the left when you see it from directly behind. About 7 minutes into the vid.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 20:00

    If anyone is going to be in London early - I'm probably going here for food at lunchtime

    http://www.simpsonstavern.co.uk/

    Fantastic food and a great environment

  • jolly12/02/2009 at 20:23

    Christine: 12/02/2009 at 18:27

    Have we discussed this yet?

    http://www.mtvindia.com/fastandgorgeous/

    No, but lets… ;)

    I got conned the other day by the Force India site - they are currently promoting the "Force India SPEED CHALLENGE RACE NOW" http://www.forceindiaf1.com/

    So I thought I'd have a go thinking it was like the RBS racing game - only ended up registering for some internet gaming site that I never ever had any intention of joining.

  • me12/02/2009 at 20:59

    have taken the bourdais boots post down, due to something of a lack of research on our part. will re-post with a more thought through argument later this evening.

    just in case you wondered where the heck it went.

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:02

    reposting kathi's link too:

    some pictures from today’s Bahrain ‘test’

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 21:02

    Did wonder.

    Also - Apparently Vettel had bodywork damage today Did he run over a pebble and the left side of the chassis fall apart?

  • RG12/02/2009 at 21:03

    just in case you wondered where the heck it went.

    I was thinking what the hell it was all about. I was thinking one of your weaker posts.

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:04

    I was thinking what the hell it was all about. I was thinking one of your weaker posts.

    decent argument: "we could do with kers safety answers"

    bad lead: "bourdais always wears them boots!"

    doh!

    give us an hour, looking for a picture of some marigolds ;)

  • RG12/02/2009 at 21:05

    give us an hour, looking for a picture of some marigolds

    I'm assuming not these

    http://www.theflowerexpert.com/media/images/growingflowers/flowersandseasons/marigolds/african-marigold.jpg

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:06

    in the meantime please check out steven's excellent post:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/02/12/the-fastest-driver-who-never-raced/

  • Kathi12/02/2009 at 21:06

    reposting kathi’s link too:

    Note to self: pay attention to the small print

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:07

    Note to self: pay attention to the small print

    it's bigger in the new version :)

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:09

    I’m assuming not these

    :D

    :D

  • Lukeh12/02/2009 at 21:19

    Ohh I've just come to a starking revelation about the next few months... the two loves of my life, Muse and motorsport, have clashed in a really good yet horrible situation :( I want to go to Goodwood this year but I've just read that Muse are touring the UK in about September time and I want to go to at least 2 gigs as I'll eb able to drive then fingers crossed...

    Do I save up for Goodwood that I really wanna check out and have done for ages?

    or do I save up for Muse;s UK tour I;ve been waiting 3 years for?

    Bah!! I have a job but because of the redevelopment in Newport for the Ryder Cup in 2010 it seems un likely I'll have a job over the summer to re-save up if I went to goodwood... :(

  • Dom12/02/2009 at 21:20

    Do I save up for Goodwood that I really wanna check out and have done for ages?

    or do I save up for Muse;s UK tour I;ve been waiting 3 years for?

    I'm guessing you might get a very one-sided answer here, ;)

  • RG12/02/2009 at 21:21

    the two loves of my life, Muse and motorsport,

    I really hope you don't have a girlfriend.

    If you've saved up for it, go to Muse. Or if you can, go halfies and instead of 2 Muse gigs, go to 1 and goodwood if possible.

  • me12/02/2009 at 21:22

    I really hope you don’t have a girlfriend.

    :D

  • Lukeh12/02/2009 at 21:23

    If you’ve saved up for it, go to Muse. Or if you can, go halfies and instead of 2 Muse gigs, go to 1 and goodwood if possible.

    Thats what I was thinking tbh because I've heard so many good things on here reading previous stuff from goodwood and in general.

    I really hope you don’t have a girlfriend.

    Haha :p

  • Scott Woodwiss12/02/2009 at 21:28

    I really hope you don’t have a girlfriend.

    On the other hand, if she likes Muse and motorsport, you're the luckiest guy in the world. ;)

  • RG12/02/2009 at 21:29

    On the other hand, if she likes Muse and motorsport, you’re the luckiest guy in the world.

    That would work excellently too.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 21:35

    Cool, cool, cool

    Have just booked tickets to see Patrick Stewart & Ian McKellan in Waiting for Godot in June

    Gonna be most excellent

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 21:37

    If anyone's at all interested in either of their work, check it out:

    Waiting For Godot

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 21:45

    RG: 12/02/2009 at 21:29

    On the other hand, if she likes Muse and motorsport, you’re the luckiest guy in the world.

    That would work excellently too.

    Plus she can pay for the tickets. ;)

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 21:58

    So apparently, Lamborghini make shoes as well

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lambo-shoes-jpg

  • me12/02/2009 at 22:05

    dunlop bridge is coming down:

    http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/dne0912fe11.jpg

  • me12/02/2009 at 22:06

    So apparently, Lamborghini make shoes as well

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lambo-shoes-jpg

    am gonna struggle to wear them on me hands.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 22:08

    am gonna struggle to wear them on me hands.

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 22:08

    dunlop bridge is coming down:

    Noooooooooooooo

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 22:09

    Do I save up for Goodwood that I really wanna check out and have done for ages?

    or do I save up for Muse;s UK tour I;ve been waiting 3 years for?

    Will you feel worse if you know you are not at Goodwood but have Muse to look forward to or if you are missing Muse knowing that you had a great time at Goodwood and met some sidepodpeeps?

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 22:17

    On the other hand, if she likes Muse and motorsport, you’re the luckiest guy in the world.

    That would work excellently too.

    Interestingly, my ex loved Muse and motorsport, as do I. I guess I was the luckiest guy in the world! :D Went to Goodwood last year and saw Muse at Wembley as well. Although I can't remember if that was '07 or '08...

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 22:20

    So apparently, Lamborghini make shoes as well

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lambo-shoes-jpg

    The left one appears to be on fire. Or is that just tyre smoke?

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 22:20

    The left one appears to be on fire. Or is that just tyre smoke?

    The one on the left, that is.

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 22:23

    The left one appears to be on fire. Or is that just tyre smoke?

    I guess the ad agency are implying that they're smokin'!

  • Ollie12/02/2009 at 22:24

    I guess the ad agency are implying that they’re smokin’!

    One thing is for sure, I could run very fast in them! ;)

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 22:36

    The world's first space crash has happened.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5713541.ece

  • Bassano Clapper12/02/2009 at 22:39

    The world’s first space crash has happened.

    Saw that on the news earlier, had to happen I guess

  • lou12/02/2009 at 22:48

    So apparently, Lamborghini make shoes as well

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lambo-shoes-jpg

    is it bad that i now want a pair of those shoes? :P

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 22:56

    Saw that on the news earlier, had to happen I guess

    If all that dead hardware is whizzing round especially in high orbits sooner or later something is going to hit something else. It would be a good time for anyone to invent a space hoover to pick up all the bits before they take out more satellites.

  • jolly12/02/2009 at 22:56

    bit more rumour on USF1 - http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-usf1-seeking-spanish-satellite-base/

  • Steven Roy12/02/2009 at 22:58

    bit more rumour on USF1 - http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-usf1-seeking-spanish-satellite-base/

    Written by: SPEED Staff / GMM

  • me12/02/2009 at 22:59

    Written by: SPEED Staff / GMM

    how is it possible that the people windsor works for can't even call him up and get a quote?

    how lazy is this world?

  • Andy Taylor12/02/2009 at 23:02

    Evening all

    Hmm - Outlook and Outlook Express? Both hideous, but Express needs a special mention because it is almost totally impossible to export your email out of it. Both programs store email in a single file (the PST file), so if this gets damaged, your whole archive is at risk. Also, if the file gets larger than 2GB, Outlook breaks it and there's no way back. Seriously.

    Avoid.

  • Flibster12/02/2009 at 23:18

    lou: 12/02/2009 at 22:48

    So apparently, Lamborghini make shoes as well http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lambo-shoes-jpg

    is it bad that i now want a pair of those shoes?

    Women...... :P