Today sees the second semifinal of the 2010 World Cup, and isn't it a cracker: Germany versus Spain. Just 4 years ago, we saw Schumacher vs Alonso for the F1 crown. This time, we see their respective football teams take to the pitch for the chance to face the Netherlands in Johannesburg.

On the surface, it's a rematch of the Euro 2008 final. But if you look closer, this is a much different German team than the one who played two years ago. Even without the injured Michael Ballack, they seem to be going from strength to strength. This is the team that has scored 4 goals for 3 matches now (2 of them in the knockout stages), against teams of increasing difficulty (Australia, then England, then Argentina).

On the other hand, they had a strange 1-0 loss to Serbia, who didn't even make it past the group stages, but it seems such a distant memory after their recent dominance. Their other concern will be missing Thomas Muller from the lineup, as he is serving a one-game suspension after previously receiving 2 yellow cards.

The new kids on the block take on the veterans from Spain, who no doubt are under significant pressure to win the World Cup for the first time. One may argue that they've had a slightly easier time of it than the Germans - their only real rated foe to date has been Portugal in the Round of 16, yet they've failed to dominate any of their matches. To add to that, they too suffered a strange 1-0 loss to Switzerland, who also failed to make it to the knockout rounds. That said, they've won all the matches they needed to win. And this will almost certainly be their most successful World Cup in 60 (yes, SIXTY) years, no matter what happens from here on out.

The key matchup for me is the battle of the strikers: Germany's Miroslav Klose versus Spain's David Villa. They are the reason their respective teams made it this far, and both are contending for the Golden Boot as well. Look for them to be scoring a goal or three tonight. In case this one goes to penalties (and there's a good chance it will), they will be the center of attention there as well.

So just to confirm today's sole game: Germany vs. Spain - 1930 BST - LIVE on BBC 1

How do I think this will go? It seems my heart and brain agree - Germany looks to be the better team, and I am rooting for them to win this one. They took out my bet Argentina, but they fully deserved to, so I'm transferring my support to them. Never discount Spain, though, as their experience may translate to them handling the pressure better than Germany. I'm predicting a 2-1 win for Germany. I will also go on the record to say that the winner of tonight's fixture will win it all on Sunday night in Soccer City. It's the first evening match I'm staying up for, so I'll see you in the comments!

282 responses

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:33

    Fantastic post and it ain't that short either. Come on Germany!

    On the other hand, they had a strange 1-0 loss to Serbia, who didn't even make it past the group stages,

    Actually I don't think it was that strange (at least compared to the Spain-Swiss one). Right from the squad lists, I felt that Klose is essential for the team. Once he got sent off, Germany had no one holding the line and pressing defenders, making it much harder for auxiliary strikers Podolski and Mueller to move forward and join in the attack. I didn't see them winning that one from the red card onwards, though I thought they should have perhaps drawn with the penalty.

  • me07/07/2010 at 15:34

    It's the first evening match I'm staying up for, so I'll see you in the comments!

    yay! great post mr. j.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 15:36

    If Klose scores tonight, he'll equal Ronaldo on 15 World Cup goals, which is a record.

    Nice post mr journeyer.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 15:37

    Actually I don't think it was that strange (at least compared to the Spain-Swiss one). Right from the squad lists, I felt that Klose is essential for the team. Once he got sent off, Germany had no one holding the line and pressing defenders, making it much harder for auxiliary strikers Podolski and Mueller to move forward and join in the attack. I didn't see them winning that one from the red card onwards, though I thought they should have perhaps drawn with the penalty.

    That does make sense.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:37

    If Klose scores tonight, he'll equal Ronaldo on 15 World Cup goals, which is a record.

    :D

    Klose doesn't do all that much other than scoring goals, does he? Typical fox-in-the-box.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 15:37

    It's the first evening match I'm staying up for, so I'll see you in the comments!

    yay! great post mr. j.

    thank you mr. c. :D

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 15:38

    If Klose scores tonight, he'll equal Ronaldo on 15 World Cup goals, which is a record.

    True. I'm betting he'll get at least 1 in tonight, but he won't want tying/beating Ronaldo just as a consolation prize.

    That said, even Germany can't score 4 against Spain... right?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:39

    That said, even Germany can't score 4 against Spain... right?

    I remember coming across an article earlier today that said they'll score 5. :P

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 15:40

    I remember coming across an article earlier today that said they'll score 5. :P

    That's... insane. :O

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 15:41

    Do, er, club teams I think they're called, start hurriedly buying and selling players based on what they've seen at the World Cup?

  • RG07/07/2010 at 15:42

    Do, er, club teams I think they're called, start hurriedly buying and selling players based on what they've seen at the World Cup?

    Yes. A bad case is Ramon Vega, he had a good World Cup/European Championship with Switzerland, Spurs bought him and now many regard him as the worst player...ever

  • me07/07/2010 at 15:43

    Yes. A bad case is Ramon Vega, he had a good World Cup/European Championship with Switzerland, Spurs bought him and now many regard him as the worst player...ever

    i'll wager badoer would be worse.

  • fourstar07/07/2010 at 15:44

    Do, er, club teams I think they're called, start hurriedly buying and selling players based on what they've seen at the World Cup?

    Yep, there's always a gamble if you have your eye on a player.

    Do you try to snap him up before the World Cup and risk him getting injured, or wait until afterwards and risk him having a great tournament and doubling in price!

    Of course, he could also have a shocker and you then have the other problem, in that he wasn't as good as you thought he was :)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:45

    Do, er, club teams I think they're called, start hurriedly buying and selling players based on what they've seen at the World Cup?

    Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose prove that it shouldn't be done but clubs do so anyway.

    You should always bid for flops in a WC (ala Rooney, C Ronaldo, Kaka, etc...) instead. ;)

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 15:45

    Do you try to snap him up before the World Cup and risk him getting injured, or wait until afterwards and risk him having a great tournament and doubling in price!

    Interesting! I had no idea it was so complicated.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 15:46

    Yes. A bad case is Ramon Vega, he had a good World Cup/European Championship with Switzerland, Spurs bought him and now many regard him as the worst player...ever

    This reminds me of Kleberson!

    Bad times. Although Fergie bought Park Ji Sung after a world cup and everyone loves Park :)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:46

    Yes. A bad case is Ramon Vega, he had a good World Cup/European Championship with Switzerland, Spurs bought him and now many regard him as the worst player...ever

    i'll wager badoer would be worse.

    :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 15:47
  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 15:48

    AWESOME.

    hahahaha.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 16:45

    Oooh apparently Torres has been dropped tonight

  • RG07/07/2010 at 16:46

    Oooh apparently Torres has been dropped tonight

    5 matches too late.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 16:46

    Oooh apparently Torres has been dropped tonight

    Desperate times call for desperate measures? Though he was the one who scored that Euro winning goal...

    Any word on the Fabregas injury?

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 16:47

    Desperate times call for desperate measures? Though he was the one who scored that Euro winning goal...

    I reckon it's the right choice. Torres has had a shocker of a World Cup, just like rooney, Kaka, and other so called big names.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 16:49

    I reckon it's the right choice. Torres has had a shocker of a World Cup, just like rooney, Kaka, and other so called big names.

    Not saying that you are wrong. Just saying maybe the Germans have even less to fear if they pack the midfield any further since the wings will be more open, and German long balls have better accuracy than Spanish ones so far. Unless they are going for Llorente instead of Fabregas?

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 16:51

    Not saying that you are wrong. Just saying maybe the Germans have even less to fear if they pack the midfield any further since the wings will be more open, and German long balls have better accuracy than Spanish ones so far. Unless they are going for Llorente instead of Fabregas?

    Haven't heard anything on Fabregas yet. I know pedro is replacing torres though so they're obviously looking at adding a bit more pace to their attacks.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 16:55

    Pedro is in for Torres tonight.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 16:56

    Haven't heard anything on Fabregas yet. I know pedro is replacing torres though so they're obviously looking at adding a bit more pace to their attacks.

    Pedro? Hmm... Might give the German defense something to think about. I think Friedrich can cope though. Villa is more troublesome, as it will make Captain Lahm more of a central defender than he already is. I suspect there will be quite a few last-ditch game-saving tackles from him tonight.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 17:11

    From BBC live commentary:

    From Andrei Arshavin: "I can't imagine what formation Spain will play now, will it be 4-3-3 with Iniesta on the wing or a strange 4-4-2? I think 4-3-3 will be the way forward. Germany have overpowered Argentina and England by taking control of the midfield, but Spain have the better players in the centre of the park. Though I think they need an extra player in there in order to ensure they remain in control."

    I agree with his comments almost completely, but the question is: Arshavin? Really?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 17:53

    This makes me want Germany to trash the Spanish team into oblivion. I mean sore losers aren't nearly as bad as the winner that just rubs it in your face. :(

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 17:57

    This makes me want Germany to trash the Spanish team into oblivion. I mean sore losers aren't nearly as bad as the winner that just rubs it in your face. :(

    That second video reminds me of that Champions League came when there was a fight after the match and someone chased after someone kickingn them on the pitch, but I can't remember who it was

  • RG07/07/2010 at 17:59

    I mean sore losers aren't nearly as bad as the winner that just rubs it in your face. :(

    Crouchy!!!

  • James07/07/2010 at 17:59

    This makes me want Germany to trash the Spanish team into oblivion. I mean sore losers aren't nearly as bad as the winner that just rubs it in your face. :(

    I remember seeing that interview live. good times ;)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 17:59

    Crouchy!!!

    You should watch the whole series. It even features his WC goal! :D

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:00

    You should watch the whole series. It even features his WC goal! :D

    I did.

    His acting, well, stick with Spurs mate and you'll be fine.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:01

    His acting, well, stick with Spurs mate and you'll be fine.

    :D

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 18:23

    Right I am tuned in.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:23

    Germany to win 3-2. German goals from Klose, Schweinsteiger and Ozil. Spanish goals from Villa and Xavi.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:24

    Right I am tuned in.

    Let's go!

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 18:24

    Germany to win 3-2. German goals from Klose, Schweinsteiger and Ozil. Spanish goals from Villa and Xavi.

    My 2-1 predo goals will come from Klose, Schweinsteiger, and Villa.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:24

    Germany to win 3-2. German goals from Klose, Schweinsteiger and Ozil. Spanish goals from Villa and Xavi.

    I think Lukas should get a goal. And Captain Philipp too.

    5-2?

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:25

    5-2?

    Not a chance. I'm thinking 3 goals is extreme.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:25

    To quote The Simpsons...

    Open wide for some sooccceeerrr!!

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:25

    I think we are heading to extra time with this one. I expect it to be really close. Given my ability to forecast that probably means Marilene is right.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 18:26

    I think we are heading to extra time with this one. I expect it to be really close. Given my ability to forecast that probably means Marilene is right.

    Hehe.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:26

    Open wide for some sooccceeerrr!!

    Halfback passes to the center. Back to the wing. Back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:27

    Not a chance. I'm thinking 3 goals is extreme.

    But that is what makes this WC fun! Remember 4-0?

    I think we are heading to extra time with this one. I expect it to be really close. Given my ability to forecast that probably means Marilene is right.

    YAY! :D

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:28

    But that is what makes this WC fun! Remember 4-0?

    Spain have a good defence though.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 18:28

    I do like the name Schweinsteiger.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:28

    Halfback passes to the center. Back to the wing. Back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it.

    heeeheee. I am assuming it is the Spanish center?

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:28

    Halfback passes to the center. Back to the wing. Back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it.

    :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:28

    Spain have a good defence though.

    Sorry but I have never rated Ramos as a defender. Me thinks he is a frustrated winger.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:29

    I do like the name Schweinsteiger.

    I wonder if Red Bull have an option on him because he is a Seb

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:29

    heeeheee. I am assuming it is the Spanish center?

    Nah, quote from the best Simpson episode ever.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:29

    I do like the name Schweinsteiger.

    BASTIAN! :D

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:29

    Sorry but I have never rated Ramos as a defender. Me thinks he is a frustrated winger.

    Oh yeah.

    Spain have a good defence if you exclude Ramos though.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:29

    I do like the name Schweinsteiger.

    I wonder if Red Bull have an option on him because he is a Seb

    :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:30

    Kick off!

  • me07/07/2010 at 18:30

    Kick off!

    phew, thought i'd missed a bit.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:32

    Sorry but I have never rated Ramos as a defender. Me thinks he is a frustrated winger.

    Oh yeah.

    Spain have a good defence if you exclude Ramos though.

    I agree with my newspaper's comment that "The entire Spanish squad, with the exception of goalkeeper, captain and saint Casillas is attack-minded".

    Which means I don't trust their defense. Not that I trust Germany's one either.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:33

    Which means I don't trust their defense. Not that I trust Germany's one either.

    They have Neuer in goal who has so far, not impressed me.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 18:33

    What is the "best pass completion rate"? That the person you aim at manages to get the ball?

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:33

    Loony on the pitch

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 18:33

    Intruder. Niiice.

  • me07/07/2010 at 18:34

    ooh, that's a new one.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:34

    They have Neuer in goal who has so far, not impressed me.

    They should bring back Kahn!

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:34

    What is the "best pass completion rate"? That the person you aim at manages to get the ball?

    yup.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:34

    They have Neuer in goal who has so far, not impressed me.

    They should bring back Kahn!

    hee :D

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:34

    ooh, that's a new one.

    Not quite a crazy irish priest running down a straight

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:34

    What is the "best pass completion rate"? That the person you aim at manages to get the ball?

    You managers are so technical. Pass completion means it goes to one of your own players. Not necessarily the one you aimed at

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 18:35

    I'm torn. I want Spain to win because my sister lives there, I want Germany to win because it would make the England defeat less disappoinnting :)

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:35

    They should bring back Kahn!

    Always loved Lehmann.

    You were guaranteed goals when he was in net.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:35

    They should bring back Kahn!

    Or Tony Schumacher

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 18:35

    Not quite a crazy irish priest running down a straight

    Hard to believe that it was 7 British GPs ago this weekend. ;)

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 18:35

    Intruder. Niiice.

    Intruder interrupts Spain. This is like Eurovision

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:35

    You were guaranteed goals when he was in net.

    ahhh Crazy Jens :D

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 18:36

    Too close for comfort, that.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:36

    Intruder interrupts Spain. This is like Eurovision

    I wonder if they get to repeat the game?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:36

    They should bring back Kahn!

    Or Tony Schumacher

    If you want Tony you might as well stick with Neuer. That was a great save just then. Plus he has added acting skills. ;)

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:37

    If you want Tony you might as well stick with Neuer. That was a great save just then. Plus he has added acting skills. ;)

    Tony's approach to goalkeeping was like Michael's to racing except he did a lot more damage

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:38

    If you want Tony you might as well stick with Neuer. That was a great save just then. Plus he has added acting skills. ;)

    Tony's approach to goalkeeping was like Michael's to racing except he did a lot more damage

    +1

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:38

    Tony's approach to goalkeeping was like Michael's to racing except he did a lot more damage

    I was going to say the French wouldn't be too happy... but then again what have they been happy about this year?

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 18:38

    They should bring back Kahn!

    Or Tony Schumacher

    The NHRA driver?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:39

    If you want Tony you might as well stick with Neuer. That was a great save just then. Plus he has added acting skills. ;)

    Tony's approach to goalkeeping was like Michael's to racing except he did a lot more damage

    Btw, my 2nd and 3rd sentence referred to Neuer. In case it wasn't clear.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 18:39

    The NHRA driver?

    That's what I was thinking. NHRA = Drag racing. :D

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 18:39

    Good pressure from david tennant

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:39

    The NHRA driver?

    That is a different Tony Schumacher. There was a German keeper with that name who committed one of the worst fouls in the history of football

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:40

    Good pressure from david tennant

    David Tennant = goal poaching extraordinaire. :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:41

    That is a different Tony Schumacher. There was a German keeper with that name who committed one of the worst fouls in the history of football

    This is him attacking Patrick Battiston

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3byTNRoxujo

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:42

    On replay, I think Oezil wasn't offside. Ah well.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:43

    Puyol shoulda scored there, lovely cross

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:43

    Puyol chance! I think bald heads are better than that mop for goals.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:45

    Corner! Finally Piotr shows some attacking intent. Lovely combination with Philipp there.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:45

    Spain played themselves into trouble there. They were looking for passes and had a man standing wide left on his own the whole time

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:45

    Casillas lucky, moved for the ball too early there.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:46

    Germany still looks good. Spain has improved. This game looks better by the minute.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:47

    Germany still looks good. Spain has improved. This game looks better by the minute.

    Spain seem to be struggling with their passing. That is twice it has broken down with the Germans just standing off them

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:47

    Spain seem to be struggling with their passing. That is twice it has broken down with the Germans just standing off them

    But they are looking to attack more now. Which is better for us.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:49

    Ramos thinks he is Forlan

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:49

    Ramos thinks he is Forlan

    More like Maicon. But he is neither.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:52

    What happened to the German passing there? Should have broken better.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:52

    There is a lot of space in that Spanish defence

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:53

    What happened to the German passing there? Should have broken better.

    It's always difficult when a team is so direct. It's easy for Spain to make hundreds of short passes and look in control

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:54

    I am upset with Piotr's positioning. With Philipp covering the central defense (as he has always been needed to do), he should stick further right. Like Mueller did.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:55

    It's always difficult when a team is so direct. It's easy for Spain to make hundreds of short passes and look in control

    I just though Oezil and Podolski look a little slack in passing there.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:56

    I just though Oezil and Podolski look a little slack in passing there.

    I would agree with that. Looked like something that would happen in the first minute of a match before the players had settled

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:57

    Bah Ramos. :(

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:57

    That should have been a yellow

  • me07/07/2010 at 18:57

    ooh, f1 crossover plug :)

  • RG07/07/2010 at 18:58

    ooh, f1 crossover plug :)

    This weekend is awesome for sport.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 18:58

    ooh, f1 crossover plug :)

    They are crossing the streams. Don't they know F1 should be on a different thread

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 18:58

    Bah Ramos. :(

    As if forgetting he is a defender isn't bad enough, he does bad tackles when he remembers he needs to mark Lukas. I really really dislike him.

  • me07/07/2010 at 19:00

    They are crossing the streams. Don't they know F1 should be on a different thread

    heheehh!!

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 19:01

    They are crossing the streams. Don't they know F1 should be on a different thread

    Ha :D

  • me07/07/2010 at 19:01

    liked that!

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:01

    That was a fantastic shot! PIOTR! You now have my love too! :D

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:01

    Excellent save from the keeper

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:02

    That was a fantastic shot! PIOTR! You now have my love too! :D

    :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:02

    Excellent save from the keeper

    San Iker. :D

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:02

    San Iker. :D

    Dios mio. :P

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:05

    Per Mertersacker seems to have finally gotten into top gear. Been awesome in shutting out Villa so far.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:06

    Offside. Why is it that the 'now' Spain is capable of making every game they play in boring?

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:06

    Brilliant stat: http://twitter.com/2010MisterChip/status/17972113331

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:07

    Offside. Why is it that the 'now' Spain is capable of making every game they play in boring?

    They are double banned in my list of banned teams.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:07

    Brilliant stat: http://twitter…ip/status/17972113331

    Aw. We will be watching history being made today then. :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:08

    They are double banned in my list of banned teams.

    :D

    I mean defense (N.Korea vs Brazil) and passing (Spain circa Euro 08) can be watchable, but this Spanish team is woeful.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:09

    I mean defense (N.Korea vs Brazil) and passing (Spain circa Euro 08) can be watchable, but this Spanish team is woeful.

    Yep. Not too sure what happened, they seemed brilliant and then this World Cup happened.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:10

    Yep. Not too sure what happened, they seemed brilliant and then this World Cup happened.

    New coach? They said earlier that del Bosque wasn't the Euro 08 coach.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:10

    Jerome 'Fancy-city' Boateng. :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:11

    I think the problem with this game is a clash of styles. Spain want to play everything short so the game gets compressed but when Germany get the ball it stretches because they want to play it longer and faster.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:11

    New coach? They said earlier that del Bosque wasn't the Euro 08 coach.

    No, even through qualifying they were brilliant.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:11

    New coach? They said earlier that del Bosque wasn't the Euro 08 coach.

    Yeah, maybe. Bosque is more defensive minded - thus Alonso and Busquets replace 1 Marcos Senna. :(

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:12

    Puyol made a great clearance but from attack

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:12

    Argh. Lukas should have passed instead of punted there. Bastian was looking to break.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 19:12

    It's fair to say the Alice bands do not look good on everyone.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:13

    It's fair to say the Alice bands do not look good on everyone.

    :)

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:13

    Am I the only person who finds Spain extremely dull to watch except for Chavvy Xavi?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:13

    Iniesta more of a threat than Villa? Philipp has been switched to the left...

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:14

    Am I the only person who finds Spain extremely dull to watch except for Chavvy Xavi?

    No, this.is.killing.me

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:14

    Am I the only person who finds Spain extremely dull to watch except for Chavvy Xavi?

    No, you are not. They have been pathetically passing without attacking intent throughout this whole WC.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:14

    Am I the only person who finds Spain extremely dull to watch except for Chavvy Xavi?

    They are dull except when they get an opening and then everything speeds up. Trouble is the German defending is too good for them and the Germans are not biting in midfield

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 19:15

    Am I the only person who finds Spain extremely dull to watch except for Chavvy Xavi?

    I liked that little play but on the whole I'm enjoying watching Germany more

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:15

    No foul??

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:16

    I think a German goal would liven up the game but a SPanish one could kill it stone dead

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:16

    I liked that little play but on the whole I'm enjoying watching Germany more

    I've never liked spain, they just always bore me. Seeing Switzerland beat them was excellent :)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:16

    I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WASN'T A PENALTY! IS RAMOS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING?

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:16

    I think a German goal would liven up the game but a SPanish one could kill it stone dead

    +1

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:16

    No foul??

    For me it was a penalty.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:16

    I think a German goal would liven up the game but a Spanish one could kill it stone dead

    No worries. 0-0 at HT. Who'da thunk it?

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:16

    That wasn't a penalty

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:17

    Well thats karma for the no-goal for England...kinda

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:17

    All I saw was the German attacker clip his own feet together

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:17

    The legend that is Linekar describes this game as fascinating like chess.

    Shame I find chess totally rubbish like this match.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:18

    That wasn't a penalty

    It was clipping his calf and pushing and shirt (about the waist) pulling. Penalty for me. Plus that earlier yellow card he got away with, Ramos is making me very angry indeed.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:18

    The legend that is Linekar describes this game as fascinating like chess.

    Much in the same way Max said F1 races should play out like chess games? ;)

    Shame I find chess totally rubbish like this match.

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:18

    No worries. 0-0 at HT. Who'da thunk it?

    erm

    http://sidepodcast.com/2010/07/07/2010-fifa-world-cup-day-23/comments/#comment-835542

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:18

    Well thats karma for the no-goal for England...kinda

    Ah well.

    All I saw was the German attacker clip his own feet together

    After his calf was clipped by an inept.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:18

    Outside the box in any case. So definatly wasn't a penalty.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:19

    The legend that is Linekar describes this game as fascinating like chess.

    Shame I find chess totally rubbish like this match.

    I think he is right. Technically it is facinating but you technical stuff can only keep your interest so long.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:19

    erm

    you can have ET with 1-1, or 2-2. ;)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:20

    Outside the box in any case. So definatly wasn't a penalty.

    Then a free kick. It most definitely was a foul.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:20

    you can have ET with 1-1, or 2-2. ;)

    Or 4-4.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:20

    Then a free kick. It most definitely was a foul.

    I'll wait for another replay in this analysis now but I still don't think it was

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:21

    you can have ET with 1-1, or 2-2. ;)

    If we get 4 goals in this game it will be a miracle

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:21

    If we get 4 goals in this game it will be a miracle

    I think we will... in the penalty shootout.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 19:22

    I think we will... in the penalty shootout.

    Do penalty goals count towards the golden booty things?

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:22

    Do penalty goals count towards the golden booty things?

    No.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:23
  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:23

    I think we will... in the penalty shootout.

    The only way we will get 4 goals before that is if Germany score 2 and SPain have to attack and forget about mincing about the midfield

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:23

    Do penalty goals count towards the golden booty things?

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:24

    Do penalty goals count towards the golden booty things?

    :D

    That was for golden booty not you asking the question

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:25

    The only way we will get 4 goals before that is if Germany score 2 and SPain have to attack and forget about mincing about the midfield

    If Germany scores 2, I think Spain will just rollover and get a thrashing. Even in the dying minutes against the Swiss, they chose to pass rather than shoot.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:31

    2nd half kick off!

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:32

    Philipp back to the right... Will this switching be a constant?

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:32

    Torres may have been rubbish for the whole tournament but Spain play better when he plays

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:33

    Philipp back to the right... Will this switching be a constant?

    I assume it was to deal with a particular problem

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:33

    Torres may have been rubbish for the whole tournament but Spain play better when he plays

    They need height. Put on Llorente!

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:34

    I assume it was to deal with a particular problem

    Was Boateng playing there, he was struggling.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:34

    I assume it was to deal with a particular problem

    Iniesta I thought. But now he seems to be back to marking Villa.

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:34

    Cats, that was MIGHTY close.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:35

    They need height. Put on Llorente!

    When I heard Torres had been dropped I assumed that is what they would do. I was surprised they didn't because they have always played one of them all the way through

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:35

    Was Boateng playing there, he was struggling.

    Yes. But Philipp can't play right back, central defense, right wing AND left back at the same time.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:35

    Nice hit by Alonso

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:35

    Cats, that was MIGHTY close.

    and AGAIN!

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:35

    Spain seem to be...shooting?!

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:36

    Spain seem to be...shooting?!

    You mean Alonso. Maybe he should try from further out? Like the halfway line?

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:36

    Spain seem to be...shooting?!

    Maybe they have worked out that to win they need to score

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:37

    Maybe they have worked out that to win they need to score

    :D

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:37

    Jansen for Boateng. Not surprised.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:38

    Boatenf being substituted

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 19:38

    That man didn't look very happy about coming off.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:39

    That man didn't look very happy about coming off.

    Proper unhappy is kicking a water bottle or throwing the shirt.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:39

    That man didn't look very happy about coming off.

    I don't think he would be. He is not playing up to the team's standard. He doesn't deserve to be on. Sorry.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:39

    That man didn't look very happy about coming off.

    Some players get really stroppy about being substituted. They throw things and kick things just like Fernando Alonso

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:39

    Proper unhappy is kicking a water bottle or throwing the shirt.

    Also known as the Wayne Rooney reaction

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:40

    This referee is far too lenient.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:40

    Ramos is the new van Bommel.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:40

    I think Spain need Christine to be their manager so they can put Forlán on

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:41

    I think Spain need Christine to be their manager so they can put Forlán on

    :D

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 19:41

    I think Spain need Christine to be their manager so they can put Forlán on

    He'd sort 'em out.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:41

    I think Spain need Christine to be their manager so they can put Forlán on

    She can use the argument Forlan already plays in Spain

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:43

    She can use the argument Forlan already plays in Spain

    and Diego is a Spanish name. Getting Beckham in is going to be more difficult unless he has kept his house in Madrid

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:43

    and Diego is a Spanish name. Getting Beckham in is going to be more difficult unless he has kept his house in Madrid

    It is Dahveed! :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:44

    Best chance yet

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:44

    Brilliant German goalkeeper.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:44

    WHAT WAS THAT! Okay. Now it is game on.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:44

    Spain oh Spain.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:44

    Spain oh Spain.

    It seems that only Villa can score.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 19:45

    Best chance yet

    You threatened them with Forlan, see.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:45

    Brilliant German goalkeeper.

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:45

    You have to wonder why a team that can play like this choose to be so boring most of the time

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:46

    You have to wonder why a team that can play like this choose to be so boring most of the time

    +1

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:46

    You have to wonder why a team that can play like this choose to be so boring most of the time

    Urgency.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:47

    At the start of this game I didn't really mind who won but I can now imagine how nervous and boring Spain would be in the final so I want a repeat of the 1974 final now

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:47

    Kroos coming on

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:48

    Toni for Piotr. COME ON GERMANY!

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:55

    Kroos should have scored

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:55

    KROOS! Come on...

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:55

    Weak finish, shoulda just lashed it.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:55

    Free kick....

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:55

    Kroos should have scored

    Lotsa people should've scored by now. Pressure.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:56

    Corner...

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Puyol scores

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Puyol goal!

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Spain goal.

    :(

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Aww man. Stupid spain.

  • James07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Woo Spain! :)

  • RG07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Who said you can't score a header with a ridiculous haircut?

  • me07/07/2010 at 19:59

    FINALLY! GOOOOAL

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 19:59

    Who said you can't score a header with a ridiculous haircut?

    I did. Woops. :P

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 19:59

    No-one picked him up. He is one of the first players in that team who should be marked at a corner

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 20:00

    It was because I opened a German beer, wasn't it..

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:02

    What's wrong with that - Lawrenson

    Straight leg, studs up etc

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:03

    What's wrong with that - Lawrenson

    Straight leg, studs up etc

    I like that conversation though.

    "Awww, what's wrong with that?"

    Silence.

    "You're supposed to say nothing."

    "I am saying nothing."

    :)

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:03

    What's wrong with that - Lawrenson

    Straight leg, studs up etc

    Referee has been woeful so far...

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:03

    Silence.

    "You're supposed to say nothing."

    "I am saying nothing."

    hehe1

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:05

    I think someone wants to start counting how many Spaniards are out there

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:06

    Gomez for Khedira, Torres for Villa.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:07

    Torres coming on now. WHat is the point to that? On for Villa??????

    If Germany score now that could be the worst substitution in history

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 20:08

    Pedro FAIL

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:08

    Absolutely rubbish Pedro

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:08

    Oh dear Pedro, shoulda passed to Torres

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:08

    Pedro you so so selfish...

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:08

    Pedro you so so selfish...

    He was looking for the headlines there

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:11

    What is wrong with that #2 Lawrenson

    He tackled with both feet off the ground

    He had one leg in front and one behid

    He tripped the player

    Other than that nothing

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:11

    Silva for Pedro.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:11

    What is wrong with that #2 Lawrenson

    Who is this man? He's quite annoying.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:12

    Who is this man? He's quite annoying.

    If Mick McCarthy is better than him, it says it all.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 20:12

    Who is this man? He's quite annoying.

    The absolute worst commentator in any sport. I would happily take Legard over this buffoon...

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:12

    Who is this man? He's quite annoying.

    Used to play for Liverpool and as you will have guessed by his Lancashire accent Ireland

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:13

    Used to play for Liverpool and as you will have guessed by his Lancashire accent Ireland

    Hehehe.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 20:13

    Used to play for Liverpool and as you will have guessed by his Lancashire accent Ireland

    Ah yes, just like John Aldridge ;)

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:15

    Oh wait, that's the same guy that was on the Chris Moyles podcast.

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:15

    The absolute worst commentator in any sport. I would happily take Legard over this buffoon...

    no. the boring autosport guy who borrows ideas from steven was marginally worse. it's a close call though.

  • Lukeh07/07/2010 at 20:16

    no. the boring autosport guy who borrows ideas from steven was marginally worse. it's a close call though.

    If they did something together I woud actually cry. Or at least send myself to an asylum to recover.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:16

    3 minutes for the Germans

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:17

    Someone needs to strangle that octopus

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:17

    no. the boring autosport guy who borrows ideas from steven was marginally worse. it's a close call though.

    Mark Hughes

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:17

    If they did something together I woud actually cry. Or at least send myself to an asylum to recover.

    i think you'd be instantly comatose.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:17

    Someone needs to strangle that octopus

    I was about to say, is anyone else getting a bit freaked out by the octopus!

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:17

    Mark Hughes

    him. more boring than even mark lawrenson.

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:18

    him. more boring than even mark lawrenson.

    From my limited experience, Mr L is not so much boring, as annoying.

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:19

    From my limited experience, Mr L is not so much boring, as annoying.

    he's not annoying me. his voice sends me to sleep.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:19

    Full time: Germany 0 Spain 1

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:20

    Come on Holland, don't let Spain win.

    Interestingly enough though, we will have a new World Cup winner.

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:20

    Full time: Germany 0 Spain 1

    i want penalties.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:20

    Spain win

    We have two teams who have never won the world cup before. I think that is the first time that has happened since 1978

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 20:20

    From my limited experience, Mr L is not so much boring, as annoying.

    I tune him out like a vuvuzela

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:20

    Is it a bit awkward if you play with someone normally and then face them in the World Cup?

  • Journeyer07/07/2010 at 20:21

    We have two teams who have never won the world cup before. I think that is the first time that has happened since 1978

    Epic.

    I think Spain will win, but I want Netherlands to win.

  • Pat W07/07/2010 at 20:21

    Wow. Didn't expect that result. I sort of expected one goal, but I thought Germany would get it.

  • Marilene Riddle07/07/2010 at 20:21

    I think I would have rather Argentina or even England win than Spain. That is how boring Spain has become. :(

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:22

    I tune him out like a vuvuzela

    I can do that with Legard but not Lawrenson

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:23

    Is it a bit awkward if you play with someone normally and then face them in the World Cup?

    It can be. Especially when they get back to their club

  • James07/07/2010 at 20:23

    I put the Netherlands and Spain down on the sidepodsweepstake. not claiming I saw it coming mind ;)

    http://sidepodcast.wikia.com/wiki/Sidepodsweepstake_-_2010_World_Cup

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:25

    I put the Netherlands and Spain down on the sidepodsweepstake. not claiming I saw it coming mind ;)

    I didn't know there was a sidepodsweepstake

  • Christine07/07/2010 at 20:26

    I put the Netherlands and Spain down on the sidepodsweepstake. not claiming I saw it coming mind ;)

    Ooh, I forgot about the sweepstake!

    Stupid France.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:27

    Well, at least Germany can try and win the most pointless game ever.

    What makes it scary is I predicted this final: http://northernwaffler.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/so-who-will-win-the-world-cup/

    Not as good as the octopus, but I try.

  • Steven Roy07/07/2010 at 20:28

    What makes it scary is I predicted this final: http://norther…ll-win-the-world-cup/

    And3 of the 4 semi finalists

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:29

    And3 of the 4 semi finalists

    Somethings happened and my predictions are becoming (almost) accurate.

  • RG07/07/2010 at 20:34

    I'll suppose we'll be back on Saturday for the most pointless match ever. Fun times.

  • me07/07/2010 at 20:36

    I'll suppose we'll be back on Saturday for the most pointless match ever. Fun times.

    excellent!

  • RubberGoat07/07/2010 at 21:53

    Just returned from watching the football outdoors (at the same place as last time)...

    It was really cool but the weird thing is that it was packed with Spanish and Germans - more so than Danes at their own games...

    The night was filled with singing and dancing and we had a great time - a really lovely warm night too.

    Oh, and yeah, it was great that Spain won ;)